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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] docs: gpu: nova-core: Document the PRAMIN aperture mechanism
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:08:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a76912-497f-482d-b2c2-675e34ea92c1@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251020185539.49986-5-joelagnelf@nvidia.com>

On 10/20/25 11:55 AM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> While not terribly complicated, a little bit of documentation will help
> augment the code for this very important mechanism.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/gpu/nova/core/pramin.rst | 113 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  Documentation/gpu/nova/index.rst       |   1 +
>  2 files changed, 114 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/gpu/nova/core/pramin.rst

Hi Joel,

Here's a more thorough review.

> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/nova/core/pramin.rst b/Documentation/gpu/nova/core/pramin.rst
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..19615e504db9
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/gpu/nova/core/pramin.rst
> @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@
> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +
> +=========================
> +PRAMIN aperture mechanism
> +=========================
> +
> +.. note::
> +   The following description is approximate and current as of the Ampere family.
> +   It may change for future generations and is intended to assist in understanding
> +   the driver code.
> +
> +Introduction
> +============
> +
> +PRAMIN is a hardware aperture mechanism that provides CPU access to GPU Video RAM (VRAM) before
> +the GPU's Memory Management Unit (MMU) and page tables are initialized. This 1MB sliding window,
> +located at a fixed offset within BAR0, is essential for setting up page tables and other critical
> +GPU data structures without relying on the GPU's MMU.
> +
> +Architecture Overview
> +=====================
> +
> +Logically, the PRAMIN aperture mechanism is implemented by the GPU's PBUS (PCIe Bus Controller Unit)

How about:

The PRAMIN aperture mechanism is logically implemented by the GPU's PBUS (PCIe Bus Controller Unit)


> +and provides a CPU-accessible window into VRAM through the PCIe interface::
> +
> +    +-----------------+    PCIe     +------------------------------+
> +    |      CPU        |<----------->|           GPU                |
> +    +-----------------+             |                              |
> +                                    |  +----------------------+    |
> +                                    |  |       PBUS           |    |
> +                                    |  |  (Bus Controller)    |    |
> +                                    |  |                      |    |
> +                                    |  |  +--------------.<------------ (window always starts at
> +                                    |  |  |   PRAMIN     |    |    |     BAR0 + 0x700000)
> +                                    |  |  |   Window     |    |    |
> +                                    |  |  |   (1MB)      |    |    |
> +                                    |  |  +--------------+    |    |
> +                                    |  |         |            |    |
> +                                    |  +---------|------------+    |
> +                                    |            |                 |
> +                                    |            v                 |
> +                                    |  .----------------------.<------------ (Program PRAMIN to any
> +                                    |  |       VRAM           |    |    64KB VRAM physical boundary)
> +                                    |  |    (Several GBs)     |    |
> +                                    |  |                      |    |
> +                                    |  |  FB[0x000000000000]  |    |
> +                                    |  |          ...         |    |
> +                                    |  |  FB[0x7FFFFFFFFFF]   |    |
> +                                    |  +----------------------+    |
> +                                    +------------------------------+
> +
> +PBUS (PCIe Bus Controller) among other things is responsible in the GPU for handling MMIO

How about:

PBUS (PCIe Bus Controller) is responsible for, among other things, handling MMIO

> +accesses to the BAR registers.
> +
> +PRAMIN Window Operation
> +=======================
> +
> +The PRAMIN window provides a 1MB sliding aperture that can be repositioned over
> +the entire VRAM address space using the NV_PBUS_BAR0_WINDOW register.
> +
> +Window Control Mechanism
> +-------------------------
> +
> +The window position is controlled via the PBUS BAR0_WINDOW register::
> +
> +    NV_PBUS_BAR0_WINDOW Register
> +    +-----+-----+--------------------------------------+
> +    |31-26|25-24|           23-0                       |

Should we use ":" notation here?

31:26 | 25:24 | 23:0

> +    |     |TARG |         BASE_ADDR                    |
> +    |     | ET  |        (bits 39:16 of VRAM address)  |
> +    +-----+-----+--------------------------------------+
> +
> +    TARGET field values:
> +    - 0x0: VID_MEM (Video Memory / VRAM)
> +    - 0x1: SYS_MEM_COHERENT (Coherent system memory)
> +    - 0x2: SYS_MEM_NONCOHERENT (Non-coherent system memory)

These SYS_MEM_* items imply to the reader that PRAMIN can target
sysmem. However, pramin.rs in this series hard-codes this field
to VID_MEM:

let window_reg = regs::NV_PBUS_BAR0_WINDOW::default().set_window_addr(fb_offset);

It's not clear why that is done (I seem to recall a potential deadlock
in older chips, in similar situations, but that's probably stale info).

If, however, there is some limitation that prevents using SYS_MEM*, then
we should document it, probably here.

> +
> +64KB Alignment Requirement
> +---------------------------
> +
> +The PRAMIN window must be aligned to 64KB boundaries in VRAM. This is enforced
> +by the BASE_ADDR field representing bits [39:16] of the target address::
> +
> +    VRAM Address Calculation:
> +    actual_vram_addr = (BASE_ADDR << 16) + pramin_offset
> +    Where:
> +    - BASE_ADDR: 24-bit value from NV_PBUS_BAR0_WINDOW[23:0]
> +    - pramin_offset: 20-bit offset within PRAMIN window [0x00000-0xFFFFF]

How about:

      - pramin_offset: 20-bit offset within the PRAMIN window [0x00000-0xFFFFF]

> +    Example Window Positioning:
> +    +---------------------------------------------------------+
> +    |                    VRAM Space                           |
> +    |                                                         |
> +    |  0x000000000  +-----------------+ <-- 64KB aligned      |
> +    |               | PRAMIN Window   |                       |
> +    |               |    (1MB)        |                       |
> +    |  0x0000FFFFF  +-----------------+                       |
> +    |                                                         |
> +    |       |              ^                                  |
> +    |       |              | Window can slide                 |
> +    |       v              | to any 64KB boundary             |

Maybe:

    s/any 64KB boundary/any 64KB-aligned boundary/

> +    |                                                         |
> +    |  0x123400000  +-----------------+ <-- 64KB aligned      |
> +    |               | PRAMIN Window   |                       |
> +    |               |    (1MB)        |                       |
> +    |  0x1234FFFFF  +-----------------+                       |
> +    |                                                         |
> +    |                       ...                               |
> +    |                                                         |
> +    |  0x7FFFF0000  +-----------------+ <-- 64KB aligned      |
> +    |               | PRAMIN Window   |                       |
> +    |               |    (1MB)        |                       |
> +    |  0x7FFFFFFFF  +-----------------+                       |
> +    +---------------------------------------------------------+
> diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/nova/index.rst b/Documentation/gpu/nova/index.rst
> index 46302daace34..e77d3ee336a4 100644
> --- a/Documentation/gpu/nova/index.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/gpu/nova/index.rst
> @@ -33,3 +33,4 @@ vGPU manager VFIO driver and the nova-drm driver.
>     core/fwsec
>     core/falcon
>     core/msgq
> +   core/pramin

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-20 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-20 18:55 [PATCH 0/7] Pre-requisite patches for mm and irq in nova-core Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 1/7] docs: rust: Fix a few grammatical errors Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 21:21   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-20 21:33   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-10-20 23:23     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 2/7] gpu: nova-core: Add support to convert bitfield to underlying type Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 21:25   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-22  6:25   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 17:51     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 3/7] docs: gpu: nova-core: Document GSP RPC message queue architecture Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 21:49   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-22  1:43   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-10-22 11:16   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 4/7] docs: gpu: nova-core: Document the PRAMIN aperture mechanism Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 19:36   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-20 19:48     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 20:42       ` John Hubbard
2025-10-20 20:45         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 22:08   ` John Hubbard [this message]
2025-10-22  2:09   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 5/7] gpu: nova-core: Add support for managing GSP falcon interrupts Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 22:35   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-21 18:42     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-22  6:48     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 21:09       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-22 23:16         ` John Hubbard
2025-10-22  6:47   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 21:05     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 6/7] nova-core: mm: Add support to use PRAMIN windows to write to VRAM Joel Fernandes
2025-10-22  2:18   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-22 17:48     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-22 20:43       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-24 11:31       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 10:41   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 22:04     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-24 11:39       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 7/7] nova-core: mm: Add data structures for page table management Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 20:59   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-21 18:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-21 20:30       ` John Hubbard
2025-10-21 21:58         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 21:30   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-11-03 19:21     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-04 17:54       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-11-04 18:18         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-11-03 19:29     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-04 17:56       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-11-05  2:25         ` John Hubbard
2025-10-22 11:21   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 19:13     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-20 21:20 ` [PATCH 0/7] Pre-requisite patches for mm and irq in nova-core John Hubbard
2025-10-21 18:29   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-22  6:57 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-22 21:30   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-24 11:51     ` Alexandre Courbot

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