From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 12:03:52 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <054ef52478fc93fc213a9dae23ea77f73094aaf2@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260928-drm-mipi-dsi-panel-ebpf-v1-0-5244926aace4@kernel.org>
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026, Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:
> Panels in general, and MIPI-DSI panels in particular, are pretty
> difficult to support and require pretty much a panel driver for each
> panel produced. Most of them are pretty simple, and require an opaque
> initialization sequence that is usually poorly documented.
>
> This creates a tension between OEMs and distros because OEMs will
> typically get a new panel to react to a sourcing issue during
> production, and thus need some swift turnaround between getting their
> new panel and it being operational in the OS. Distributions on the other
> hand can take years to ship a kernel with that new panel driver.
>
> To solve this, I followed the example of HID-BPF and wrote a panel
> driver that will rely on BPF programs to perform the panel
> initialization. That way, we can ship the programs separately from the
> kernel, and with a different lifecycle. If this driver is accepted, the
> plan is to have a userspace component started by udev to identify and
> load the right BPF program for the panels found on the device.
I'd think for most panels it would suffice to have a declarative
language describing what to do at what points in time. For example, at
poweron, enable this GPIO, wait a little, write this set of DSI
commands, etc. You rarely need actual programming, or even ability to
read-modify-write something.
It could be, say, YAML converted to some binary representation. Maybe
that could be in the DT, or maybe you could override it with the
firmware loader. And obviously any vendor "blob" could be trivially
converted back to YAML and upstreamed.
Where that falls short, you could always have a dedicated driver, or
extend the declarative stuff.
Now, the question is, how much more BPF solves over that, without
requiring a dedicated driver, and is the added complexity worth it?
FWIW, on the Intel platforms that support DSI, all of the
initialization, poweron/poweroff, backlight on/off etc. sequences like
that are stored in the BIOS, defined by the OEM. A plethora of DSI
panels, one driver. Don't look at it for examples how to implement it,
but I think the basic idea is workable.
BR,
Jani.
--
Jani Nikula, Intel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-29 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-28 16:22 Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 19:16 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 20:40 ` Rob Herring
2026-09-29 8:39 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 22:28 ` Rob Herring
2026-09-30 8:04 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 20:43 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-09-29 23:44 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/panel: Add generic MIPI-DSI panel driver with BPF init sequences Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add BPF program build infrastructure and helper header Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 23:44 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 7-inch panel BPF program Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 5-inch " Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH DO NOT MERGE 6/6] arm64: dts: broadcom: Add Raspberry Pi ILI9881C DSI panel overlays Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-28 17:31 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 18:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-29 6:54 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:39 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 17:24 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 19:20 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 19:48 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 20:36 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29 7:41 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 7:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-09-29 7:27 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 7:13 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 7:46 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-29 9:03 ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2026-09-29 9:32 ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-29 10:16 ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29 12:28 ` Maxime Ripard
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