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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
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	Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 10:39:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <artyl8fD3zzng8Uh@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260928204059.GA515872-robh@kernel.org>

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Hi,

I'll merge the two discussions in that thread.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 03:40:59PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 06:22:01PM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > Most MIPI-DSI panel drivers follow an identical pattern: acquire
> > regulators and GPIOs, perform a reset pulse with specific timing,
> > send a vendor-supplied sequence of DSI commands, then enable the
> > display. The only truly panel-specific part is the init sequence
> > and power-on/off timing.
> > 
> > The panel-mipi-dsi-bpf driver replaces per-panel kernel modules
> > with a single generic driver whose panel-specific behavior is
> > provided by BPF programs loaded from userspace at runtime,
> > following the HID-BPF model. This enables new panel support
> > without kernel patches.
> > 
> > Panel DT nodes use a two-entry compatible with the panel-specific
> > string first and "panel-mipi-dsi-bpf" as fallback. The generic
> > driver matches on the fallback, while the first compatible is used
> > to identify which BPF program to load.
> 
> If you need the 1st compatible anyways, what is the point of the
> second one?

The whole point of this driver is that you don't need to modify the
kernel when you add support for a new panel.

> Also, I assume there is at least some panel supported in the kernel
> you might want to convert to this. That panel would not have the
> fallback (and the DT is fixed).

Yeah, that's true. I'd still need to identify the parts though. I guess
using a generic compatible but a specific model would work?

> And I agree with Neil's comment. At least until we start embedding BPF 
> into DT directly. ;)

And from Neil:

> I don't see how this can be a valid hardware description, bfp is a
> software implementation and has nothing to do in the bindings.

I'm quite a bit surprised by that argument though.

We have in the main dt-schema repos bindings like:

https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/main/dtschema/schemas/options/u-boot.yaml
https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/main/dtschema/schemas/bootph.yaml
https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/main/dtschema/schemas/post-init-providers.yaml

Or, in Linux:
https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/display/panel/panel-mipi-dbi-spi.yaml
https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/misc/google,android-pipe.yaml
https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/misc/qcom,fastrpc.yaml
https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/sound/simple-card.yaml

All of them have been reviewed or acked by you, and yet none of them
relate to any hardware description.

panel-mipi-dsi-spi is a generic panel that will load a firmware, and
quite similar to this one. google,android-pipe and qcom,fastrpc don't
attach to anything and will just open a tunnel to userspace, which is
somewhat equivalent but more dramatic than what this driver is doing.
simple-card or its variations will just instantiate a kernel driver from
the DT and is used pretty much everywhere.

I reused the binding from panel-mipi-dsi-spi for this. It was reviewed
by rob, and acked by a panel maintainer, and 4 years ago, so we're way
past the "oh but we didn't know what we were doing back then" argument.

So, let's phrase this differently: what's different about the
description than panel-mipi-dsi-spi, or any other binding already in
tree?

If it's the BPF part, BPF is not Linux-only, and there's hardware with
direct BPF support these days, so it can be considered OS-agnostic and
not an implementation detail.

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-29  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 16:22 [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 19:16   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 20:40   ` Rob Herring
2026-09-29  8:39     ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2026-09-29 22:28       ` Rob Herring
2026-09-28 20:43   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-09-29 23:44   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/panel: Add generic MIPI-DSI panel driver with BPF init sequences Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add BPF program build infrastructure and helper header Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 23:44   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 7-inch panel BPF program Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 5-inch " Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH DO NOT MERGE 6/6] arm64: dts: broadcom: Add Raspberry Pi ILI9881C DSI panel overlays Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-28 17:31   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 18:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-29  6:54   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:39 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 17:24   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 19:20     ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 19:48       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 20:36         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  7:41           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:55             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-09-29  7:27       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:13   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:46     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-29  9:03 ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29  9:32   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-29 10:16     ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29 12:28       ` Maxime Ripard

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