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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org,
	Federico Vaga <federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Carlos Bilbao <carlos.bilbao@kernel.org>,
	Avadhut Naik <avadhut.naik@amd.com>, Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>,
	Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@linux.dev>,
	Dongliang Mu <dzm91@hust.edu.cn>,
	Chen-Yu Yeh <chenyou910331@gmail.com>, Weijie Yuan <wy@wyuan.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 08:53:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0605a3c99b55124d1be71c9939f636e2@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261020-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v2-0-162aea473488@linuxfoundation.org>

On 2026-10-20 08:35, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> LKML has become mostly a firehose of patches that are already going to 
> a
> subsystem list. The reason is THE REST: it matches every file in the
> tree, so get_maintainer.pl adds linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org to every
> single patch. During the week of Oct 1-7, 2026:
> 
>   - LKML carried 13,641 messages (~1,950/day), 90% of which were also
>     sent to at least one other list;
>   - with ~2,100 subscribers, that is about 29 million deliveries per
>     week for LKML alone.
> 
> This issue came up during the 2026 Maintainer Summit and the consensus
> was that "always include linux-kernel for every patch" was never the
> intent.

That's not actually true.

Lkml was the default mailing list and other lists were specific to their 
interests.

> This series makes THE REST a fallback as initially intended: it is only
> added for a file when no other matching MAINTAINERS section provides a
> mailing list that get_maintainer.pl would actually output for it.

> Patch 2 updates submitting-patches.rst, which currently tells 
> submitters
> to send every patch to LKML.

Which was the documented and then desired behavior.

No worries, things change.

I too stopped subscribing to lkml a long while ago.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-20 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-20 15:35 Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] get_maintainer: only use THE REST as a fallback Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 15:47   ` Joe Perches
2026-10-20 15:52     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 16:39       ` Joe Perches
2026-10-20 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] docs: submitting-patches: make LKML a list of last resort again Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 16:58   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-20 15:53 ` Joe Perches [this message]
2026-10-20 16:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML Weijie Yuan

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