From: Weijie Yuan <wy@wyuan.org>
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org,
Federico Vaga <federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it>,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
Carlos Bilbao <carlos.bilbao@kernel.org>,
Avadhut Naik <avadhut.naik@amd.com>, Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>,
Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@linux.dev>,
Dongliang Mu <dzm91@hust.edu.cn>,
Chen-Yu Yeh <chenyou910331@gmail.com>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 00:44:37 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ateadbflRqzgIVSh@wyuan.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261020-get-maintainer-the-rest-fallback-v2-0-162aea473488@linuxfoundation.org>
On 2026-10-20 11:35:24 -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev
<konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> LKML has become mostly a firehose of patches that are already going to a
> subsystem list. The reason is THE REST: it matches every file in the
> tree, so get_maintainer.pl adds linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org to every
> single patch. During the week of Oct 1-7, 2026:
>
> - LKML carried 13,641 messages (~1,950/day), 90% of which were also
> sent to at least one other list;
> - with ~2,100 subscribers, that is about 29 million deliveries per
> week for LKML alone.
>
> This issue came up during the 2026 Maintainer Summit and the consensus
> was that "always include linux-kernel for every patch" was never the
> intent.
>
> This series makes THE REST a fallback as initially intended: it is only
> added for a file when no other matching MAINTAINERS section provides a
> mailing list that get_maintainer.pl would actually output for it.
> Patch 2 updates submitting-patches.rst, which currently tells submitters
> to send every patch to LKML.
>
> Several v1 reviewers asked for a catch-all list that would keep carrying
> every patch for those who want to follow all kernel development. That
> is a worthwhile discussion, but it is separate from this series, which
> only restores THE REST to its original role.
>
> Translation maintainers are Cc'd because the it_IT, ja_JP, sp_SP, zh_CN
> and zh_TW versions of submitting-patches.rst carry the same "send every
> patch to LKML" advice and will need a follow-up update once the English
> text is settled.
Thanks. Added to the todo list.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-20 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-20 15:35 Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] get_maintainer: only use THE REST as a fallback Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 15:47 ` Joe Perches
2026-10-20 15:52 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 16:39 ` Joe Perches
2026-10-20 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] docs: submitting-patches: make LKML a list of last resort again Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 16:58 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-20 15:53 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML Joe Perches
2026-10-20 16:44 ` Weijie Yuan [this message]
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