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From: "Carlos López" <clopez@suse.de>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, seanjc@google.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, imbrenda@linux.ibm.com,
	borntraeger@linux.ibm.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/9] mm/mprotect: add MM_CP_PERM_UPGRADE
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2026 23:01:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <079c15fb-8b41-472d-b9f2-d88826e27286@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <avdw0O4rWi4WrTvy@gremlin>

On 11/13/26 9:37 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 03:20:34PM +0100, Carlos López wrote:
>> Add a change_protection() flag for changes that only add permissions,
>> so that MMU notifier users can keep their mappings and fault in the new
>> permissions later. mprotect() sets it when the new VMA flags only add
>> read, write or execute permissions, or VM_ACCOUNT, which does not affect
>> the page tables. Any other change, such as a different protection key,
>> is not an upgrade.
> 
> I'm struggling to comprehend what this means.
> 
> 'Add a flag for changes that only add 'permissions' (not defined) so that 'MMU
> notifier users' can keep mappings and 'fault' in 'the new permissions' later.
> 
> The rest of the message just states what the code does but speaks about it as if
> it was already what happened.
> 
> This needs to be completely rewritten...!

I'll rewrite it. By permissions I mean the access granted by the
protection bits in the page table entries.

> [...]
>> +/* Whether this change only upgrades/adds permissions */
>> +#define  MM_CP_PERM_UPGRADE                (1UL << 6)
> 
> What are 'permissions' exactly?

See above

> [...]
>> +static bool vma_flags_is_perm_upgrade(vma_flags_t old_vma_flags,
>> +				      vma_flags_t new_vma_flags)
> 
> No comment, random abbreviation (but just one word). Not ideal.

I'll rename. As David noted, the name I chose is not really correct.

>> +{
>> +	vm_flags_t old = vma_flags_to_legacy(old_vma_flags);
>> +	vm_flags_t new = vma_flags_to_legacy(new_vma_flags);
> 
> This is beyond appalling and a complete abuse of the VMA flags API.
> 
> You seem to have decided that you won't try to learn how the API works, so
> instead you'll just write deprecated code that I have to find time to come and
> fix up later I guess?

Sorry, I'll rewrite the helper with the vma_flags_t API, using
VMA_ACCESS_FLAGS and VMA_ACCOUNT_BIT, and document it.

> And we're at v3...!
> 
>> +	/* VM_ACCOUNT does not affect page tables */
> 
> What does this mean? And why are you referring to a deprecated constant?

I meant that setting VM_ACCOUNT does not affect the protection bits of
an entry, so it should not prevent the new flag from being set.
mprotect() sets VM_ACCOUNT when a private mapping becomes writable,
which is the case I wanted to cover. I'll explain this better.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-15 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-12 14:20 [PATCH v3 0/9] KVM: don't zap secondary MMU on permission upgrade Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] mm: fix eager write-bit restore for write-notified shared mappings Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:00     ` Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] riscv: mm: add pud_soft_dirty() Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] mm/huge_memory: honor MM_CP_TRY_CHANGE_WRITABLE in change_huge_pud() Carlos López
2026-11-13 18:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-15 22:00     ` Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:00     ` Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] mm: keep writable entries writable on protection changes Carlos López
2026-11-13 18:56   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-15 21:59     ` Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] mm/mprotect: add MM_CP_PERM_UPGRADE Carlos López
2026-11-13 18:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-15 22:03     ` Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:01     ` Carlos López [this message]
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] mm/mmu_notifier: add MMU_NOTIFIER_RANGE_PERM_UPGRADE Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] KVM: pass the mmu_notifier event and flags to kvm_gfn_range Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] KVM: x86/mmu: don't zap secondary MMU on permission upgrade Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] KVM: s390: don't unmap the gmap " Carlos López
2026-11-13 19:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] KVM: don't zap secondary MMU " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-13 20:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:04   ` Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:19   ` Carlos López

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