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From: "Carlos López" <clopez@suse.de>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, seanjc@google.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	peterx@redhat.com, ljs@kernel.org, imbrenda@linux.ibm.com,
	borntraeger@linux.ibm.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/9] mm: keep writable entries writable on protection changes
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2026 22:59:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <743f60f7-d611-4d73-a2d1-d5873bcdda36@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <603cd8e0-c2c5-4c1e-85c4-d0a5ceda8d4c@kernel.org>

On 11/13/26 7:56 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 11/12/26 15:20, Carlos López wrote:
>> change_protection() applies vma->vm_page_prot, which lacks the write bit
>> for CoW and write-notified mappings. MM_CP_TRY_CHANGE_WRITABLE makes
>> entries writable again if a write fault would only set the write bit.
>> In shared mappings, it relies on the dirty bit for this, as a clean
>> entry might still need a write fault to notify the FS.
>>
>> However, this misses clean entries that were already writable. For
>> example, a uffd-wp unprotect makes shmem PTEs read-only if they were
>> mapped by a read fault before uffd-wp was registered, so the next write
>> to each of them faults.
> 
> See my other reply, adding such optimizations without any motivation why we
> should even care is not really what we want.
> 
> Drop it from your series and keep the MM changes to a bare minimum please.
> 
> Or is there a real dependency for your work?
> 

Yes there is, but I clearly did not explain it properly.

The whole point of the series is to avoid zaps when no permission bits
are removed by a protection change, e.g. mprotect(PROT_READ |
PROT_WRITE) on a read-only VMA. My proposal is for change_protection()
to signal this is the case to MMU notifiers with a new flag. However,
change_protection() sometimes write-protects entries that were writable,
which makes the flag wrong, so this patch fixes that.

I'll be sure to explain this properly.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-15 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-12 14:20 [PATCH v3 0/9] KVM: don't zap secondary MMU on permission upgrade Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] mm: fix eager write-bit restore for write-notified shared mappings Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:00     ` Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] riscv: mm: add pud_soft_dirty() Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] mm/huge_memory: honor MM_CP_TRY_CHANGE_WRITABLE in change_huge_pud() Carlos López
2026-11-13 18:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-15 22:00     ` Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:00     ` Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] mm: keep writable entries writable on protection changes Carlos López
2026-11-13 18:56   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-15 21:59     ` Carlos López [this message]
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] mm/mprotect: add MM_CP_PERM_UPGRADE Carlos López
2026-11-13 18:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-15 22:03     ` Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:01     ` Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] mm/mmu_notifier: add MMU_NOTIFIER_RANGE_PERM_UPGRADE Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] KVM: pass the mmu_notifier event and flags to kvm_gfn_range Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] KVM: x86/mmu: don't zap secondary MMU on permission upgrade Carlos López
2026-11-12 14:20 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] KVM: s390: don't unmap the gmap " Carlos López
2026-11-13 19:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] KVM: don't zap secondary MMU " David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-13 20:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:04   ` Carlos López
2026-11-13 20:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-15 22:19   ` Carlos López

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