From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
Cc: James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@gmail.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Alexander Stein <linux@ew.tq-group.com>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] gpio: aggregator: add gpio-aggregator DT compatible
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:49:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c6c8063-3c8e-49ad-a5cf-f751b3d9f2f5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260213092914.79790cb9@bootlin.com>
On 13/02/2026 09:29, Herve Codina wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 08:31:21 +0100
> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Or is the issue just with the name of the compatible I used being
>>> called "gpio-aggregator"?
>>
>> No, the issue is that there is no hardware you are trying represent in DTS.
>
> Except if you have a piece of hardware that invert the gpio line.
>
> In that case you need to set GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW somewhere.
>
> The aggregator allows to describe this line inverter.
Of course. And then you could touch that piece of hardware and use it as
an argument here, where I asked show me the piece of hardware being
described.
Anyway, we encode the inverters in the final GPIO flags.
>
> Of course, if the gpio is connected to a hardware component handled by the
> kernel, the DT node describing this hardware can set the flag.
>
> The issue is for GPIOs that are just GPIOs and should by a user-space
> application as GPIOs.
>
> Some bindings exist for GPIO and do not describe the hardware but the
> feature. For instance:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/trigger-source/gpio-trigger.yaml
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/gpio-poweroff.yaml
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.18/source/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/gpio-restart.yaml
>
> Can we consider the gpio-aggregator describing the wires that should be
> grouped together.
No, because the grouping depends on user-space choice (as explained by
the author).
>
> Industrial board can have some GPIOs grouped together and used as inputs or
> ouputs of this industrial board.
>
> As output they command an external system. As input, they get feedback from
> this system.
>
> gpio-aggregator describes those lines.
>
> In that sense, it describes hardware.
> Maybe the "gpio-aggregator" name doesn't reflect that and a compatible such as
> "gpio-equipment" could make sense.
What is a "GPIO grouped together"? The moment such grouping does not
depend on hardware characteristics, it's the moment it is purely
arbitrary choice thus not suitable for DT.
Comparison to gpio-restart where you have actual component, receiving a
fixed line and then doing restart is not appropriate.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-13 8:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-11 8:13 [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: gpio: add gpio-aggregator binding James Hilliard
2026-02-11 8:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] gpio: aggregator: add gpio-aggregator DT compatible James Hilliard
2026-02-11 9:47 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 9:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 10:38 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 10:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 11:00 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 10:13 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 10:36 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 10:42 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 10:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 21:47 ` Rob Herring
2026-02-11 21:49 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-12 7:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-12 19:16 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-13 7:31 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:02 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-13 8:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:29 ` Herve Codina
2026-02-13 8:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-02-13 23:03 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-11 8:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: gpio: add gpio-aggregator binding Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 8:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 8:28 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-11 8:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 17:01 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-12 14:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-12 16:53 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-12 19:54 ` Rob Herring
2026-02-12 21:22 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-13 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-13 18:34 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-16 9:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-19 18:00 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-19 18:29 ` Rob Herring
2026-02-19 22:14 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-19 22:28 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-19 23:00 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-19 23:06 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-19 23:12 ` Rob Herring
2026-02-20 4:57 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-20 8:24 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-20 11:33 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-13 14:34 ` Rob Herring
2026-02-13 22:49 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-16 9:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-19 17:57 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-20 8:17 ` Herve Codina
2026-02-20 8:35 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-20 9:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-20 13:07 ` Herve Codina
2026-02-20 13:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 8:34 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-11 9:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 9:57 ` Herve Codina
2026-02-11 10:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 10:58 ` Herve Codina
2026-02-11 13:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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