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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@gmail.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Stein <linux@ew.tq-group.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] gpio: aggregator: add gpio-aggregator DT compatible
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 08:31:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89c0dd51-fdd5-4368-b5f5-615143ffd166@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADvTj4pmAXo+KUMyB0=+x3HRdUdUq=baj_pnoa44oxnugZuTOg@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/02/2026 20:16, James Hilliard wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 12:18 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/02/2026 22:49, James Hilliard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regardless of the DT bindings - this change is perfectly fine. We do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You cannot have compatible without DT bindings, so this alone is not
>>>>>> "perfectly fine". Maybe you wanted platform_device_id entry for
>>>>>> ACPI/legacy/MFD devices?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure you can, you just can't put it into upstream devicetree sources.
>>>>> We have had a compatible for gpio-sim for testing purposes for years.
>>>>> Why would it be illegal to enable matching of platform drivers over DT
>>>>> for testing purposes?
>>>>
>>>> The primary issue is undocumented ones show up in 'make
>>>> dt_compatible_check'. I would like that to be warning free.
>>>
>>> Would adding it here make sense?
>>> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.19/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/incomplete-devices.yaml#L243-L245
>>
>> What would you like to achieve with that? The binding patch did not have
>> rationale why do we want it and here is the same question - what sort of
>> problem is being solved by adding it to incomplete (so wrong) devices?
> 
> See details for what I'm trying to accomplish with gpio-aggregator:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CADvTj4oBtO0Yhib1rE8QQwgtJvy-x_hK46C63mjVAydtxHOV8g@mail.gmail.com/

I don't think that putting it into incomplete-devices would help you. I
assume you read the binding... You still could not use that compatible
in any upstreamable DTS code, even if this is only an overlay. You would
have warnings...

> 
> I'm basically trying to use it for the reasons described here:
> https://bootlin.com/blog/gpio-aggregator-a-virtual-gpio-chip/
> 
> Is there a different device tree mechanism that can be used to
> name individual gpio lines on a gpiochip without having to name
> all of them for non-hog lines?
> 
> I'm confused why a "gpio-delay" compatible is allowed but one
> without the delay param is not?
> 
> Or is the issue just with the name of the compatible I used being
> called "gpio-aggregator"?

No, the issue is that there is no hardware you are trying represent in DTS.

> 
>> This is not a pure virtual device, but for use with actual hardware.
>>
>> Nacked-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>
> 
> I'm trying to use this with actual hardware, I just called it "virtual"
> because that's how it was described in the bootlin blog post.
> 
> I'm confused about what the issue is here as "gpio-delay" is also
> a virtual device in the same way.

gpio-delay IS NOT a virtual device. You can even touch it. Can I touch
your gpio-aggregator?

> 
>> Well, it is a virtual device in that there's no actual "aggregator"
>> device on the board. It virtually aggregates GPIOs into a separate
>> chip for user's convenience. While there's no such device as a
>> gpio-aggregator - and so we must not put it into bindings nor into
>> mainline devicetree sources - having a compatible matching in the
>> driver is perfectly fine IMO. Just like gpio-sim.
> 
> There's no such "gpio-delay" device either right? I'm confused

There is.

> why that compatible can exist but one without the delay param can
> not in the mainline sources. Aren't they both virtual devices?


Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-13  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-11  8:13 [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: gpio: add gpio-aggregator binding James Hilliard
2026-02-11  8:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] gpio: aggregator: add gpio-aggregator DT compatible James Hilliard
2026-02-11  9:47   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11  9:50     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 10:38       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 10:48         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 11:00           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 10:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 10:36       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-11 10:42         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 10:44           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 21:47         ` Rob Herring
2026-02-11 21:49           ` James Hilliard
2026-02-12  7:18             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-12 19:16               ` James Hilliard
2026-02-13  7:31                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-02-13  8:02                   ` James Hilliard
2026-02-13  8:21                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13  8:29                   ` Herve Codina
2026-02-13  8:49                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 23:03                       ` James Hilliard
2026-02-11  8:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: gpio: add gpio-aggregator binding Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11  8:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11  8:28     ` James Hilliard
2026-02-11  8:44       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-11 17:01         ` James Hilliard
2026-02-12 14:49           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-12 16:53             ` James Hilliard
2026-02-12 19:54           ` Rob Herring
2026-02-12 21:22             ` James Hilliard
2026-02-13  8:24               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-13 18:34                 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-16  9:05                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-19 18:00                     ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-19 18:29                       ` Rob Herring
2026-02-19 22:14                         ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-19 22:28                           ` James Hilliard
2026-02-19 23:00                             ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-19 23:06                               ` James Hilliard
2026-02-19 23:12                             ` Rob Herring
2026-02-20  4:57                               ` James Hilliard
2026-02-20  8:24                                 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-20 11:33                                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-13 14:34               ` Rob Herring
2026-02-13 22:49                 ` James Hilliard
2026-02-16  9:10                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-19 17:57                 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-20  8:17                   ` Herve Codina
2026-02-20  8:35                     ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-20  9:15                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-20 13:07                         ` Herve Codina
2026-02-20 13:28                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11  8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11  8:34   ` James Hilliard
2026-02-11  9:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11  9:57       ` Herve Codina
2026-02-11 10:01         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-11 10:58           ` Herve Codina
2026-02-11 13:30             ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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