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From: Steve Lord <lord@sgi.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
	Dennis Jim <jdennis@snapserver.com>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Congrats Marcelo,
Date: 26 Feb 2002 16:59:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1014764374.5993.183.camel@jen.americas.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16fqZK-0002NE-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E16fqZK-0002NE-00@the-village.bc.nu>

On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 16:59, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Someone has got to kill this assumption people have about XFS, it
> > makes much smaller changes than some things which have gone in,
> > the odd VM rewrite here and there to name some. Given that we now
> 
> Which was a complete disaster. IBM submitted Jfs into the -ac tree with
> no lines of code changed outside fs/jfs. That is really the benchmark.


Alan, I agree the VM changes had their issues, bad example, but LOTs of
things have gone into 2.4 which are more impactive than XFS, I just want
to get out of this image of XFS being the filesystem which ate the
kernel.

Yes jfs went in cleanly, because they reimplemented their filesystem
from the ground up, and had a large budget to do it. XFS does not fit
so cleanly because we brought along some features other filesystems did
not have:

  o Posix ACL support
  o The ability to do online filesystem dumps which are coherent with
    the system call interface
  o delayed allocation of file data
  o DMAPI

As it is we did all of these, and we seem to have half the Linux NAS
vendors in the world building xfs into their boxes.

Steve

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Steve Lord                                      voice: +1-651-683-3511
Principal Engineer, Filesystem Software         email: lord@sgi.com

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-26 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-26 20:38 Dennis, Jim
2002-02-26 20:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 21:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 21:15   ` crypto (was Re: Congrats Marcelo,) Jeff Garzik
2002-02-26 22:33     ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-27 21:15       ` Michael H. Warfield
2002-02-27 21:57         ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-27 22:29           ` Michael H. Warfield
2002-02-27 23:06             ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-26 21:35   ` Robert Love
2002-02-26 21:40     ` arjan
2002-02-26 21:47       ` Robert Love
2002-02-24 23:51         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-28 22:32           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01  9:50             ` Francois Romieu
2002-02-27  9:41     ` Francois Romieu
2002-02-26 21:56 ` Congrats Marcelo, Steve Lord
2002-02-24 23:39   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:23     ` Rainer Ellinger
2002-02-25  0:38       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:59     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-02-27  0:47       ` Rainer Ellinger
2002-02-27  1:08         ` Matthew D. Pitts
2002-02-27  1:03       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-02-26 22:59   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-26 22:59     ` Steve Lord [this message]
2002-02-25  0:28       ` Whither XFS? (was: Congrats Marcelo) Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:39       ` Steve Lord
2002-02-25  8:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:00   ` Congrats Marcelo, J.A. Magallon
2002-02-26 23:07   ` Steve Lord
2002-02-25  0:10     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-28 21:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-03-01  0:01   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01  0:37     ` Dave Jones
2002-03-01  1:13       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01  1:03         ` Dave Jones
2002-03-01  1:51           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01  1:28     ` Theodore Tso
2002-03-01  1:53       ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-02 22:35         ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-03-02  3:43   ` Stephen Degler
2002-02-28 22:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01  9:30 Andries.Brouwer
2002-03-01 18:33 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-02  4:13 Dennis, Jim
2002-03-02 18:24 ` David Ford
2002-03-03 22:58 ` Florian Weimer

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