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From: "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw@wittsend.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
	"Dennis, Jim" <jdennis@snapserver.com>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: crypto (was Re: Congrats Marcelo,)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:15:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020227161519.A13912@alcove.wittsend.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C7BFAFA.D8923CFF@mandrakesoft.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0202261932580.7820-100000@imladris.surriel.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0202261932580.7820-100000@imladris.surriel.com>

On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 07:33:50PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote:

> > IMO it's time to get a good IPsec implementation in the kernel...

> Where would we get one of those ?

> The freeswan folks seem quite determined to not let any
> americans touch their code, so inclusion of their stuff
> into the kernel is out.

	No...  That's patently not true.

	They won't accept contributions from us, but we touch
their code all the time.  If we didn't, how would we get any testing
done, which they do accept from us.

	Also, several of them have stated on several occasions (this is
the prerequisite religious war that pops up every few months) that
they have no say in what other people do with the code (subject to the
license of course) and that inclusion of klips in the mainline kernel
would be beyond their control, yeah or nay.  Klips is the ONLY part
of freeswan that would go in the kernel.  Pluto (IKE) is the user
space part.

	They won't accept contributions from US developers to their code
base.  That does NOT mean that they will not accept contributing the IPSec
kernel code to the kernel and the incorporation of klips into the kernel
source tree.

> Do you know of a nice ipsec implementation we could use?

	Yes.  FreeSWAN.  And the FreeSWAN developers have as much as said so.

> Rik
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-27 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-26 20:38 Congrats Marcelo, Dennis, Jim
2002-02-26 20:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-02-26 21:06 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-26 21:15   ` crypto (was Re: Congrats Marcelo,) Jeff Garzik
2002-02-26 22:33     ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-27 21:15       ` Michael H. Warfield [this message]
2002-02-27 21:57         ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-27 22:29           ` Michael H. Warfield
2002-02-27 23:06             ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-26 21:35   ` Robert Love
2002-02-26 21:40     ` arjan
2002-02-26 21:47       ` Robert Love
2002-02-24 23:51         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-28 22:32           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-03-01  9:50             ` Francois Romieu
2002-02-27  9:41     ` Francois Romieu
2002-02-26 21:56 ` Congrats Marcelo, Steve Lord
2002-02-24 23:39   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:23     ` Rainer Ellinger
2002-02-25  0:38       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:59     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-02-27  0:47       ` Rainer Ellinger
2002-02-27  1:08         ` Matthew D. Pitts
2002-02-27  1:03       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-02-26 22:59   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-26 22:59     ` Steve Lord
2002-02-25  0:28       ` Whither XFS? (was: Congrats Marcelo) Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:39       ` Steve Lord
2002-02-25  8:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-26 23:00   ` Congrats Marcelo, J.A. Magallon
2002-02-26 23:07   ` Steve Lord
2002-02-25  0:10     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-28 21:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2002-03-01  0:01   ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01  0:37     ` Dave Jones
2002-03-01  1:13       ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01  1:03         ` Dave Jones
2002-03-01  1:51           ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01  1:28     ` Theodore Tso
2002-03-01  1:53       ` Mike Fedyk
2002-03-02 22:35         ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2002-03-02  3:43   ` Stephen Degler
2002-02-28 22:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-02-26 23:18 crypto (was Re: Congrats Marcelo,) Dennis, Jim
2002-02-27  0:24 ` Chris Wright
2002-02-27  0:42 Dennis, Jim
2002-02-27  1:02 ` Chris Wright

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