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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Michael Frank <mhf@linuxmail.org>,
	Suspend development list <swsusp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]]
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:30:11 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1080333011.2022.9.camel@laptop-linux.wpcb.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040326102206.GD388@elf.ucw.cz>

Good morning.

On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 22:22, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > /proc is needed a lot
> > 
> > - enable escape
> > - select reboot mode
> > 	which is essential for multibooting. We use it all the time to
> > 	boot various installations of Linux
> 
> Perhaps reboot() can have parameter for that.

Sounds feasible. Who maintains the package with reboot/shutdown and so
on?

> > - select compression none, lzw or gzip
> > 	none is used when disk faster that cpu-limited lzf
> > 	lzf is used when cpu is fast enough to compress to disk
> > 		Fast CPU can do 100MB/s+ to 50MB/s drives
> > 	gzip is used by some who care about image size eg flash users
> 
> If you are doing "resume=swap:<something>", why not "resume=lzw-swap:something"?

Because it's ugly? resume= is supposed to specify where the image's
header is found, nothing more. More than that, though, doing this still
doesn't solve the issue of how to enable/disable a compressor (or
encryption when such a plugin appears) after booting. (Yes, I know - you
don't want that much flexibility).

> > - keep image mode (when compiled in)
> > 	which is used for embedded kiosks for example
> > 		Boeing requested and uses it
> 
> Boeing can keep external patch, this seems like pretty dangerous
> feature for joe user. And it should not be selected at /proc, but as
> command line parameter.

It relies upon both a compile time CONFIG option (because yes, it is
rarely used) and a /proc entry. The proc entry is necessary so that the
image can be updated and set up in the first place.

> > - default console level
> > 	Controls console messages or nice display
> > - access debug info header
> > 	This is needed to analyze swsusp2 performance
> > - access resume parameters
> > 	Saves a reboot when changing parameters
> > - activate
> > 	swsusp2 activation independent of apci, apm
> 
> Should not be needed. There's reboot() syscall to do that.

That's fine once we get one implementation. For now, I've been trying to
play nicely with swsusp and pmdisk. That's why I used resume2= and its
also why I supported 13 headers; I needed to recognise pmdisk and swsusp
headers so that I could know to ignore them (I tried leaving swsusp
first in the boot order, and it paniced when I'd suspended from suspend2
because it didn't recognise the header format).

> > - last result
> > 	info on why swsusp2 did not suspend such as out of
> > 	memory or swap or freezing failure
> 
> That should be return value of reboot() syscall.

Could be.

Nigel
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-26 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1079659165.15559.34.camel@calvin.wpcb.org.au>
     [not found] ` <20040318193703.4c02f7f5.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]   ` <1079661410.15557.38.camel@calvin.wpcb.org.au>
     [not found]     ` <20040318200513.287ebcf0.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]       ` <1079664318.15559.41.camel@calvin.wpcb.org.au>
2004-03-21 22:00         ` swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Pavel Machek
2004-03-22  0:29           ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-22 20:55           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-22 23:17             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23  9:53               ` [Swsusp-devel] " Jonathan Sambrook
2004-03-23 15:25                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-23 21:47                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 21:08                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 22:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 22:38                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 23:07                     ` Michael Frank
2004-03-23 23:17                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 22:36                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 23:45                           ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2004-03-23 22:52                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-24  0:05                               ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-03-23 23:10                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 22:43                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-03-23 23:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 22:40                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 23:44                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24  3:12                           ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24 10:17                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 22:46                               ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24 23:23                                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 23:56                                   ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25  0:23                                     ` -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]] Pavel Machek
2004-03-25  0:50                                       ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25  1:41                                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                           ` <200403250857.08920.matthias.wieser@hiasl.net>
2004-03-25 20:39                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-25 22:27                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-25 21:38                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-25 22:54                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26  5:59                                                     ` Michael Frank
2004-03-26 10:50                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26 13:17                                                         ` Michael Frank
2004-03-27 14:49                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-29 12:10                                                     ` fast compressed fs (was Re: -nice tree) Pavel Machek
2004-03-26  5:59                                                 ` -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]] Michael Frank
2004-03-26 10:22                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26 20:30                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2004-03-26 22:22                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-27  2:08                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-27  3:37                                                           ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27  4:28                                                             ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-27  4:40                                                               ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27 19:50                                                                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-27 20:03                                                                   ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27 21:01                                                                     ` Paranoia is fun [Was Re: -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]]] Michael Frank
2004-03-27 21:40                                                                       ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27 21:29                                                             ` -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]] Pavel Machek
2004-03-28  0:27                                                               ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-27  2:21                                                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-29 12:13                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24  4:52                       ` [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Dmitry Torokhov
2004-03-24  5:04                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-24  6:22                           ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24  5:46                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-24  7:31                               ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24 10:26                                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-25  0:06                                   ` Jonathan Sambrook
2004-03-24  9:32                             ` Karol Kozimor
2004-03-24 14:15                               ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25  0:35                                 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-03-24  5:06                         ` sleeping in request function mohanlal jangir
     [not found]                           ` <20040324083313.GG3377@suse.de>
2004-03-25  3:45                             ` mohanlal jangir
2004-03-24 10:22                         ` [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 12:48                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-03-24 15:18                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 20:22                               ` Jonathan Sambrook
2004-03-24 21:06                                 ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25 22:13                                   ` swsusp is not reliable. Face it. [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems] Pavel Machek
2004-03-25 21:33                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-25 22:52                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26  5:59                                     ` Michael Frank
2004-03-26  9:59                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26 10:21                                         ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25 22:08                                 ` [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 22:05                           ` Markus Gaugusch
2004-03-24 21:25                             ` Nigel Cunningham

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