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From: Luke-Jr <luke-jr@artcena.com>
To: swsusp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: "Michael Frank" <mhf@linuxmail.org>,
	"Micha Feigin" <michf@post.tau.ac.il>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Paranoia is fun [Was Re: -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]]]
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:40:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403272140.33356.luke-jr@artcena.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <opr5jgous34evsfm@smtp.pacific.net.th>

On Saturday 27 March 2004 09:01 pm, Michael Frank wrote:
> ... so one really would not want to put the key there.
Right.
>
> Each and every shortcut is unsafe as it somwhere has to store the
> full key and could be reverse engineered and broken "easily"
> relative to breaking the key.
If the key is based on hardware details that only root can obtain, it would 
require at least having the time to boot the victim computer into another OS 
to create the key. If the key is also dependant on details of the running 
kernel, it could be even harder to crack it.

Password-based encryption might be wanted for certain cases, but I think most 
cases would do fine to prevent the image from being used for anything except 
restoring on the original system. That way, it would be significantly more 
difficult for someone to gain access to the memory that could be used for 
other encrypted things (such as GPG key generation).

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-27 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1079659165.15559.34.camel@calvin.wpcb.org.au>
     [not found] ` <20040318193703.4c02f7f5.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]   ` <1079661410.15557.38.camel@calvin.wpcb.org.au>
     [not found]     ` <20040318200513.287ebcf0.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]       ` <1079664318.15559.41.camel@calvin.wpcb.org.au>
2004-03-21 22:00         ` swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Pavel Machek
2004-03-22  0:29           ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-22 20:55           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-22 23:17             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23  9:53               ` [Swsusp-devel] " Jonathan Sambrook
2004-03-23 15:25                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-23 21:47                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 21:08                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 22:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 22:38                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 23:07                     ` Michael Frank
2004-03-23 23:17                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 22:36                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 23:45                           ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2004-03-23 22:52                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-24  0:05                               ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-03-23 23:10                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 22:43                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-03-23 23:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-23 22:40                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-23 23:44                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24  3:12                           ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24 10:17                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 22:46                               ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24 23:23                                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 23:56                                   ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25  0:23                                     ` -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]] Pavel Machek
2004-03-25  0:50                                       ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25  1:41                                         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                           ` <200403250857.08920.matthias.wieser@hiasl.net>
2004-03-25 20:39                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-25 22:27                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-25 21:38                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-25 22:54                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26  5:59                                                     ` Michael Frank
2004-03-26 10:50                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26 13:17                                                         ` Michael Frank
2004-03-27 14:49                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-29 12:10                                                     ` fast compressed fs (was Re: -nice tree) Pavel Machek
2004-03-26  5:59                                                 ` -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]] Michael Frank
2004-03-26 10:22                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26 20:30                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-26 22:22                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-27  2:08                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-27  3:37                                                           ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27  4:28                                                             ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-27  4:40                                                               ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27 19:50                                                                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-27 20:03                                                                   ` Luke-Jr
2004-03-27 21:01                                                                     ` Paranoia is fun [Was Re: -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]]] Michael Frank
2004-03-27 21:40                                                                       ` Luke-Jr [this message]
2004-03-27 21:29                                                             ` -nice tree [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?]] Pavel Machek
2004-03-28  0:27                                                               ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-27  2:21                                                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-29 12:13                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24  4:52                       ` [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Dmitry Torokhov
2004-03-24  5:04                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-24  6:22                           ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24  5:46                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-24  7:31                               ` Michael Frank
2004-03-24 10:26                                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-25  0:06                                   ` Jonathan Sambrook
2004-03-24  9:32                             ` Karol Kozimor
2004-03-24 14:15                               ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25  0:35                                 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-03-24  5:06                         ` sleeping in request function mohanlal jangir
     [not found]                           ` <20040324083313.GG3377@suse.de>
2004-03-25  3:45                             ` mohanlal jangir
2004-03-24 10:22                         ` [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 12:48                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-03-24 15:18                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 20:22                               ` Jonathan Sambrook
2004-03-24 21:06                                 ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25 22:13                                   ` swsusp is not reliable. Face it. [was Re: [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems] Pavel Machek
2004-03-25 21:33                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-25 22:52                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26  5:59                                     ` Michael Frank
2004-03-26  9:59                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-26 10:21                                         ` Michael Frank
2004-03-25 22:08                                 ` [Swsusp-devel] Re: swsusp problems [was Re: Your opinion on the merge?] Pavel Machek
2004-03-24 22:05                           ` Markus Gaugusch
2004-03-24 21:25                             ` Nigel Cunningham

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