From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
Cc: Stefan Seyfried <seife@suse.de>,
Bernd Eckenfels <ecki-news2004-05@lina.inka.de>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: mlock(1)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:03:55 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1096409035.2116.3.camel@laptop.cunninghams> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040927224345.GB2412@dualathlon.random>
Hi.
On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 08:43, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 08:22:41AM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > I figured out how to make the swap encryption completely transparent to
> > > userspace, and even to swap suspend, so I think it's much better than
> > > having userspace asking the user for a password, or userspace choosing a
> > > random password.
> >
> But why did you quote the above? for cryptoswap it cannot work, for
> cryptoswap there's no reason to ever ask the user to anything and it
> must read and write all the time anyways, it's not like suspend
> write-only and resume read-only, a problem where public/private
> encryption can fit.
I think I was a bit confused. Sorry.
> > > yes, but the bootloader passes the paramters via /proc/cmdline, and it's
> > > not nice to show the password in cleartext there.
> >
> > If this password is only needed when resuming, that's not an issue
> > because the command line given when resuming will be lost when the
> > original kernel data is copied back.
>
> my point is that you would not be allowed to give anyone ssh access to
> your machine (assuming you trust local security). If he gets ssh access,
> then he could as well stole the laptop and read the encrypted data.
Don't follow, sorry. Perhaps I'm being thick!
> But if calling set_fs(KERNEL_DS); sys_read(0) sounds troublesome, you
> could also erase the password from the cmdline, and you would still
> pass the passphrase via bootloader. I'd recommend not to make it visible
> to userspace.
>
> > There's already compression support. It's simpler to reverse, of course,
> > but it doesn't help?
>
> that should be trivial to reverse, no?
Yes, it would be.
Regards,
Nigel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-28 22:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-24 19:57 mlock(1) Jeff Garzik
2004-09-24 20:15 ` mlock(1) Neil Horman
2004-09-24 20:21 ` mlock(1) Neil Horman
2004-09-24 20:31 ` mlock(1) Lee Revell
2004-09-24 20:33 ` mlock(1) Jeff Garzik
2004-09-24 20:39 ` mlock(1) Lee Revell
2004-09-24 20:22 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
2004-09-24 20:41 ` mlock(1) Chris Friesen
2004-09-24 20:46 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
2004-09-24 20:54 ` mlock(1) Chris Friesen
2004-09-24 20:59 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
2004-09-24 22:48 ` mlock(1) Ryan Cumming
2004-09-24 21:07 ` mlock(1) Alan Cox
2004-09-24 22:19 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
2004-09-24 22:30 ` mlock(1) Jeff Garzik
2004-09-24 23:08 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
2004-09-24 22:59 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-24 23:46 ` mlock(1) Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 1:07 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 1:21 ` mlock(1) David Lang
2004-09-25 1:30 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 1:46 ` mlock(1) Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-25 2:15 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 2:46 ` mlock(1) Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-25 2:58 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 3:29 ` mlock(1) Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-25 4:07 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-25 4:52 ` mlock(1) Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-25 17:15 ` mlock(1) Andy Lutomirski
2004-09-25 2:33 ` mlock(1) Bernd Eckenfels
2004-09-25 1:27 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-28 22:03 ` mlock(1) Robert White
2004-09-28 22:15 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-28 23:26 ` mlock(1) Robert White
2004-09-29 1:16 ` mlock(1) Jon Masters
2004-09-29 1:23 ` mlock(1) Alan Cox
2004-09-29 3:46 ` mlock(1) Robert White
2004-09-29 12:34 ` mlock(1) Jon Masters
2004-09-29 15:57 ` mlock(1) Lee Revell
2004-09-29 22:56 ` mlock(1) Paul Jackson
2004-09-25 12:21 ` mlock(1) Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 14:53 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-28 8:48 ` mlock(1) Pavel Machek
2004-09-30 17:42 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-30 18:54 ` mlock(1) Pavel Machek
2004-09-30 19:17 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-30 19:52 ` mlock(1) Pavel Machek
2004-10-04 12:21 ` mlock(1) Jack Lloyd
2004-09-24 23:59 ` mlock(1) Bernd Eckenfels
2004-09-25 0:25 ` mlock(1) Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 1:18 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-27 6:16 ` mlock(1) Stefan Seyfried
2004-09-27 10:32 ` mlock(1) Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-27 14:29 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-27 20:32 ` mlock(1) Wolfgang Walter
2004-09-27 14:16 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-27 13:31 ` mlock(1) Alan Cox
2004-09-29 1:48 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-27 14:34 ` mlock(1) Stefan Seyfried
2004-09-27 15:07 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-27 15:25 ` mlock(1) Stefan Seyfried
2004-09-27 15:38 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-30 13:04 ` mlock(1) Pavel Machek
2004-09-27 22:22 ` mlock(1) Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-27 22:43 ` mlock(1) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-28 22:03 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2004-09-24 20:24 ` mlock(1) Chris Friesen
2004-09-24 21:17 ` mlock(1) Andrew Morton
2004-09-25 0:26 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
2004-09-25 1:28 ` mlock(1) Andrew Morton
2004-09-25 1:33 ` mlock(1) Chris Wright
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