From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files
Date: 11 Oct 2004 22:49:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1097531370.2128.356.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16746.55283.192591.718383@segfault.boston.redhat.com>
Hi,
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 19:58, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> sct> I think it's worth getting this right in the long term, though.
> sct> Getting readahead of indirect blocks right has other benefits too ---
> sct> eg. we may be able to fix the situation where we end up trying to read
> sct> indirect blocks before we've even submitted the IO for the previous
> sct> data blocks, breaking the IO pipeline ordering.
>
> So for the short term, are you an advocate of the patch posted?
In the short term, can't we just disable readahead for O_NONBLOCK? That
has true non-blocking semantics --- if the data is already available we
return it, but if not, it's up to somebody else to retrieve it.
That's exactly what you want if you're genuinely trying to avoid
blocking at all costs on a really hot event loop, and the semantics seem
to make sense to me. It's not that different from the networking case
where no amount of read() on a non-blocking fd will get you more data
unless there's another process somewhere filling the stream.
--Stephen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-11 21:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-01 20:57 Jeff Moyer
2004-10-03 19:48 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-13 14:28 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-14 17:39 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-05 11:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-06 13:13 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-06 12:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07 3:31 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-07 10:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07 12:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-11 18:32 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-11 18:58 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-11 21:49 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2004-10-13 14:26 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 15:44 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 16:19 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-17 7:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-17 11:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-17 19:38 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-18 16:51 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-19 6:04 ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-21 20:14 ` James Antill
2004-10-05 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-05 13:07 Dan Kegel
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