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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:58:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16746.55283.192591.718383@segfault.boston.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097519553.2128.115.camel@sisko.scot.redhat.com>

==> Regarding Re: [patch rfc] towards supporting O_NONBLOCK on regular files; "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com> adds:

sct> Hi, On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 11:12, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

>> Oh yes, theres also the indirect blocks which we might need to read from
>> disk.

sct> Right.

>> Now the question is, how strict should the O_NONBLOCK implementation be
>> in reference to "not blocking" ?

sct> Well, I suspect that depends on the application.  But if you've got an
sct> app that really wants to make sure its hot path is as fast as possible
sct> (eg. a high-throughput server multiplexing disk IO and networking
sct> through a single event loop), then ideally the app would want to punt
sct> any blocking disk IO to another thread.

sct> So it's a matter of significant extra programing for a small extra
sct> reduction in app blocking potential.

sct> I think it's worth getting this right in the long term, though.
sct> Getting readahead of indirect blocks right has other benefits too ---
sct> eg. we may be able to fix the situation where we end up trying to read
sct> indirect blocks before we've even submitted the IO for the previous
sct> data blocks, breaking the IO pipeline ordering.

So for the short term, are you an advocate of the patch posted?

-Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-11 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-01 20:57 Jeff Moyer
2004-10-03 19:48 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-13 14:28   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-14 17:39     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-05 11:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-06 13:13   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-06 12:01     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07  3:31       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-07 10:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-07 12:30           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-11 18:32           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-11 18:58             ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2004-10-11 21:49               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-13 14:26                 ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 15:44                   ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-15 16:19                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-10-17  7:59                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-17 11:20                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-17 19:38                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-18 16:51                           ` Jeff Moyer
2004-10-19  6:04                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-21 20:14                             ` James Antill
2004-10-05 15:35 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-05 13:07 Dan Kegel

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