From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
Robert Wisniewski <bob@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc1-mm1
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:02:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1106006548.13265.521.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41EC4D18.3060100@opersys.com>
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:41 -0500, Karim Yaghmour wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > I know, what I have said. I said reduce the filtering to the absolute
> > minimum and do the rest in userspace.
>
> You keep adopting the interpretation which best suits you, taking
> quotes out of context, and keep repeating things that have already
> been answered. There are limits to one's patience.
I said before: "Sorting out disabled events is the filtering you
have to do in kernel and you should do it in the hot path or
remove the unneccecary tracepoints at compiletime."
This is exactly what I stated above. I omitted the addon of "do the rest
in userspace", as it was obvious enough.
> What you did is change your position twice. It's there for anyone to see.
Sorry, I didn't know that you are representing anyone.
> > The now builtin filters are defined to fit somebodys needs or idea of
> > what the user should / wants to see. They will not fit everybodys
> > needs / ideas. So we start modifying, adding and #ifdefing kernel
> > filters, which is a scary vision.
>
> Ah, finally. Here's an actual suggestion. _IF_ you want, I'll just
> export a ltt_set_filter(*callback) and rewrite the if in
> _ltt_log_event() to:
> if ((ltt_filter != NULL) && !(<t_filter(event_id, event_struct, data)))
> return -EINVAL;
>
> You're always welcome to do the following from anywhere in your code:
> ltt_set_filter(NULL);
Provide a hook, export it and load your filters as a module, but keep
the filters out of the mainline kernel code.
> > Enabling and disabling events is a valid basic filter request, which
> > should live in the kernel. Anything else should go into userspace, IMO.
>
> What you are suggesting is that a system administator that wants to
> monitor his sendmail server over a period of three weeks should
> just postprocess 1.8TB (1MB/s) of data because Thomas Gleixner didn't
> like the idea of kernel event filtering based on anything but events.
A real common scenario with a broad range of users. And everybody has to
like the idea of hardwired filters in the kernel code to make the life
of this sysadmin easier.
See above about hooks.
Maybe some simple pipe would be helpful too:
read_stream | prefilter | buildbuffers | storeit
tglx
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Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-14 8:23 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-14 8:47 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-14 9:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 10:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Nikita Danilov
2005-01-14 10:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-14 11:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 15:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-14 21:11 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 22:58 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-15 0:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-15 4:25 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 1:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-15 4:18 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 2:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 6:00 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 16:52 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 21:18 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 1:37 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 2:24 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 12:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 20:32 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 22:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 22:42 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-17 23:26 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 23:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 0:02 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2005-01-18 3:05 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 13:54 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-17 21:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 23:57 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 4:03 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 4:30 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Aaron Cohen
2005-01-18 4:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 8:07 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-18 16:40 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 19:37 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-18 15:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-21 6:26 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-21 22:23 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-23 7:43 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-23 7:52 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-23 8:28 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-24 0:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-25 9:12 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 1:13 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 2:52 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 17:02 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-16 19:05 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-19 11:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-19 16:53 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-16 16:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 19:47 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:30 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-19 11:11 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-14 15:24 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 11:19 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Masami Hiramatsu
2005-01-18 11:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 14:52 ` [Lkst-develop] 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Masami Hiramatsu
2005-01-14 12:36 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-14 13:04 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Kasper Sandberg
2005-01-14 18:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-14 19:08 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Rogério Brito
2005-01-14 19:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Peter Buckingham
2005-01-17 17:04 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Matthias Urlichs
2005-01-14 19:02 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2005-01-14 15:07 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-14 16:56 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-14 17:55 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-19 23:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Marcos D. Marado Torres
2005-01-19 23:54 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-14 15:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-01-14 22:03 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 17:35 ` [patch] 2.6.11-rc1-mm1: ip_tables.c: ipt_find_target must be EXPORT_SYMBOL'ed Adrian Bunk
2005-01-14 17:43 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-01-14 22:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-14 22:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-14 23:22 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-15 0:24 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15 1:27 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 16:18 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-15 13:08 ` [RFC] Instrumentation (was Re: 2.6.11-rc1-mm1) Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 2:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 3:11 ` Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 4:23 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 23:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 1:54 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 10:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 20:34 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 22:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 23:57 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 8:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-18 16:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-19 7:13 ` Werner Almesberger
2005-01-19 17:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 22:48 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andre Eisenbach
2005-01-15 8:42 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-15 8:45 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <1105740276.8604.83.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>
2005-01-14 23:09 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 0:01 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15 0:26 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-15 1:00 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15 1:25 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 10:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 4:13 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 15:19 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-15 1:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 9:57 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 16:21 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 19:49 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:11 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-16 20:32 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-16 21:06 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-16 21:40 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-17 15:48 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-17 16:13 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-17 21:38 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:39 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 21:14 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-15 2:58 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-17 22:19 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-16 0:59 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2005-01-16 19:09 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-16 19:20 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-16 21:09 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-17 23:31 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 J.A. Magallon
2005-01-18 2:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-18 2:54 ` [PATCH] Wait and retry mounting root device (revised) Daniel Drake
2005-01-18 0:34 ` Al Viro
2005-01-18 0:02 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-01-18 8:05 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-18 8:28 ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-18 8:49 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-18 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-20 20:55 ` [PATCH] Configurable delay before mounting root device Daniel Drake
2005-01-20 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-21 18:15 ` Daniel Drake
2005-01-20 22:49 ` William Park
2005-01-18 1:03 ` [PATCH] Wait and retry mounting root device (revised) William Park
2005-01-19 0:43 ` Werner Almesberger
2005-01-18 8:02 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-19 20:11 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-01-17 6:49 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Prasanna S Panchamukhi
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