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From: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
To: karim@opersys.com
Cc: Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
	Aaron Cohen <remleduff@gmail.com>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc1-mm1
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:37:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16877.25993.329027.575972@tut.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41ED3C12.8030607@opersys.com>

Karim Yaghmour writes:
 > 
 > Tom Zanussi wrote:
 > > I have to disagree.  Awhile back, if you remember, I posted a patch to
 > > the LTT daemon that would monitor the trace stream in real time, and
 > > process it using an embedded Perl interpreter, no less:
 > > 
 > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109405724500237&w=2
 > > 
 > > It didn't seem to have any problems keeping up with the trace stream
 > > even though it was monitoring all LTT event types (and a couple of
 > > others - custom events injected using kprobes) and not doing any
 > > filtering in the kernel, through kernel compiles, normal X traffic,
 > > etc.  I don't know what volume of event traffic would cause this model
 > > to break down, but I think it shows that at least some level of
 > > non-trivial live processing is possible...
 > 
 > Good Point.
 > 
 > My bad. Thanks for bringing this up. Obviously this didn't get as
 > much attention as it should've had the last time it was posted,
 > especially as it allows very easy scripting of filtering in userspace.
 > That email you refer to is pretty loaded and I'm sure those who
 > are interested will dig through it. But in the interest of helping
 > everyone get a rapid understanding of what it does and how it does it,
 > can you break it down in to a short description, possibly with a
 > diagram? I'm sure many will find this very interesting.

It's so simple it doesn't really deserve a diagram, which I'm pretty
bad at anyway...

Basically all it does is loop around the received buffer, reading each
event and sending it off to a handler.  In this case the handler
massages the data into a form that allows it to be passed to the Perl
interpreter as arguments to a Perl function that in turn acts as
callback handler in the Perl interpreter.

At that point, the Perl callback can do whatever it wants with the
data - save events matching a certain pid and discard everything else,
keep running counts or time totals e.g. total syscall counts for each
pid, function call tracing (if you dynamically instrumented function
call entry/exit with kprobes for example), etc, etc, etc.  Probably
even more useful is the ability to monitor the event stream looking
for sporadically occuring events, again under the control of the Perl
interpreter, so your criteria for deciding what an 'important event'
is can be arbitrarily complex and incorporate past history.  It also
means that you don't have to save anything at all to disk until you
detect your specified condition (which makes tracing for days or weeks
on end more practical), at which point you can dump out the currently
mapped buffer containing the last bufsize number of events most likely
to be of interest anyway.

Perl makes this kind of quick and dirty processing extremely easy and
it has a lot of powerful language features such as nested hashes built
in, which is why I chose it, but you could of course avoid the extra
layer and the interpreter and do your filtering in straight C, or
create a binding for any language you want.

IMHO being able to do most of the filtering in user space like this
opens up a lot of avenues for not only one-off problem determination
hacks, but a proliferation of more substantial tools, considering how
easy it is to put together applications using for instance the copious
number of Perl modules available.

Tom

 > 
 > Thanks,
 > 
 > Karim
 > -- 
 > Author, Speaker, Developer, Consultant
 > Pushing Embedded and Real-Time Linux Systems Beyond the Limits
 > http://www.opersys.com || karim@opersys.com || 1-866-677-4546

-- 
Regards,

Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>
IBM Linux Technology Center/RAS


  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-18 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-14  8:23 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-14  8:47 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-14  9:27   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 10:27   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Nikita Danilov
2005-01-14 10:38     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-14 11:06       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 15:31         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-14 21:11           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 22:58             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-15  0:20               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-15  4:25               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15  1:06             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-15  4:18               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16  2:38                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-16  6:00                   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 16:52                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-16 21:18                       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17  1:37                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17  2:24                           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 12:20                             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 20:32                               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 22:31                                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 22:42                                   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-17 23:26                                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 23:41                                   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18  0:02                                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-18  3:05                                       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 13:54                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-17 21:27                           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 23:57                             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18  4:03                               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18  4:30                                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Aaron Cohen
2005-01-18  4:46                                   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18  8:07                                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-18 16:40                                       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18 19:37                                         ` Tom Zanussi [this message]
2005-01-18 15:31                                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-21  6:26                                   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-21 22:23                                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-23  7:43                                       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-23  7:52                                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-23  8:28                                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-24  0:38                                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-25  9:12                                           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18  1:13                             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18  2:52                               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 17:02                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-16 19:05                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-19 11:14                       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-19 16:53                         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-16 16:14             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 19:47               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:30               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tom Zanussi
2005-01-19 11:11                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-14 15:24   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-18 11:19   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Masami Hiramatsu
2005-01-18 11:46     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 14:52       ` [Lkst-develop] 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Masami Hiramatsu
2005-01-14 12:36 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-14 13:04 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Kasper Sandberg
2005-01-14 18:35   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-14 19:08     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Rogério Brito
2005-01-14 19:41     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Peter Buckingham
2005-01-17 17:04     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Matthias Urlichs
2005-01-14 19:02   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2005-01-14 15:07 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-14 16:56   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-14 17:55     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-19 23:06   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Marcos D. Marado Torres
2005-01-19 23:54     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-14 15:35 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-01-14 22:03   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 17:35 ` [patch] 2.6.11-rc1-mm1: ip_tables.c: ipt_find_target must be EXPORT_SYMBOL'ed Adrian Bunk
2005-01-14 17:43   ` Patrick McHardy
2005-01-14 22:41 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-14 22:46 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-14 23:22   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Tim Bird
2005-01-15  0:24     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15  1:27       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 16:18       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-15 13:08     ` [RFC] Instrumentation (was Re: 2.6.11-rc1-mm1) Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16  2:09       ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16  3:11         ` Roman Zippel
2005-01-16  4:23           ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 23:43             ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17  1:54               ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 10:26                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 20:34                   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-17 22:18                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-17 23:57                       ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-18  8:46                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-18 16:31                           ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-19  7:13                 ` Werner Almesberger
2005-01-19 17:38                   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 22:48 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andre Eisenbach
2005-01-15  8:42   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-15  8:45   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Miklos Szeredi
     [not found] ` <1105740276.8604.83.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>
2005-01-14 23:09   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15  0:01     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15  0:26       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-15  1:00         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-15  1:25           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15 10:20             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16  4:13               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 15:19                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-15  1:14       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-15  9:57         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Thomas Gleixner
2005-01-16 16:21     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 19:49       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:11         ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-16 20:32           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-16 21:06             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-16 21:40               ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-17 15:48                 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-17 16:13                   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-17 21:38                     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-16 20:39           ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-16 21:14             ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-15  2:58 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-17 22:19   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-16  0:59 ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Joseph Fannin
2005-01-16 19:09   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-16 19:20     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-16 21:09   ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-17 23:31     ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 J.A. Magallon
2005-01-18  2:35       ` 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Daniel Drake
2005-01-18  2:54   ` [PATCH] Wait and retry mounting root device (revised) Daniel Drake
2005-01-18  0:34     ` Al Viro
2005-01-18  0:02       ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-01-18  8:05         ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-18  8:28         ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-18  8:49           ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-18 13:20             ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-20 20:55             ` [PATCH] Configurable delay before mounting root device Daniel Drake
2005-01-20 20:24               ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-21 18:15                 ` Daniel Drake
2005-01-20 22:49               ` William Park
2005-01-18  1:03       ` [PATCH] Wait and retry mounting root device (revised) William Park
2005-01-19  0:43         ` Werner Almesberger
2005-01-18  8:02     ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-19 20:11       ` Frank van Maarseveen
2005-01-17  6:49 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 Prasanna S Panchamukhi

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