From: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>,
Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Please open sysfs symbols to proprietary modules
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:54:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1107406442.23059.16.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050203003010.GA15481@kroah.com>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1588 bytes --]
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:30 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:07:21PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> > >On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 03:23:30PM -0800, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> > >>
> > >>What is wrong with creating a (GPL'd) abstraction layer that exports
> > >>symbols to the proprietary modules?
> > >
> > >Ick, no!
> > >
> > >Please consult with a lawyer before trying this. I know a lot of them
> > >consider doing this just as forbidden as marking your module
> > >MODULE_LICENSE("GPL"); when it really isn't.
> >
> > There will be a GPL'd layer, and it's likely that sysfs interaction will
> > be on the GPL'd side anyway, for purely technical reasons. But it does
> > feel like circumvention of the limitations set in the kernel.
>
> It is. And as such, it is not allowed.
[snip]
So, what's the magic amount of redirection and abstraction that cleanses
the GPLness, hmm? Who gets to wave the magic wand to say what
interfaces are GPL-to-non-GPL and which aren't?
For example, the IDE drivers use GPL symbols but the VFS does not. So
anyone can write a proprietary filesystem which eventually gets around
to driving the IDE layer. That is okay, but this isn't?
If the trend of making everything _GPL continues, I don't see any choice
for binary module vendors but to join together to develop a stable
driver API and build it as a GPL/BSD module. Do the same API for BSD
systems to prove modules using it are not GPL derived. Watch Greg foam.
It'd be fun.
--
Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
[-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-03 4:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-02 22:56 Pavel Roskin
2005-02-02 23:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-02 23:23 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-02-02 23:29 ` Greg KH
2005-02-03 0:07 ` Pavel Roskin
2005-02-03 0:30 ` Greg KH
2005-02-03 4:54 ` Zan Lynx [this message]
2005-02-03 5:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-03 8:59 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-03 15:12 ` Alan Cox
2005-02-03 17:26 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-03 13:47 ` linux-os
2005-02-04 16:05 ` David Woodhouse
2005-02-03 0:09 ` Joseph Pingenot
2005-02-03 1:13 ` Pavel Roskin
2005-02-03 2:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-02-03 3:17 ` Jon Masters
2005-02-06 7:24 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-07 16:05 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-07 16:55 ` linux-os
2005-02-07 18:58 ` jerome lacoste
2005-02-07 19:35 ` linux-os
2005-02-07 16:55 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-02-08 1:40 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-03 4:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-03 8:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-03 21:00 ` Ben Greear
2005-02-04 9:20 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-04 9:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-15 1:41 ` Alan Cox
2005-02-03 4:08 Jonathan A. George
2005-02-03 5:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-02-03 12:30 Jonathan A. George
2005-02-04 15:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-02-17 23:13 parker
2005-02-18 3:32 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-18 13:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1107406442.23059.16.camel@localhost \
--to=zlynx@acm.org \
--cc=greg@kroah.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mochel@digitalimplant.org \
--cc=proski@gnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
Powered by JetHome