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From: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Please open sysfs symbols to proprietary modules
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:54:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1107406442.23059.16.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050203003010.GA15481@kroah.com>

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On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:30 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:07:21PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> > >On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 03:23:30PM -0800, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> > >>
> > >>What is wrong with creating a (GPL'd) abstraction layer that exports
> > >>symbols to the proprietary modules?
> > >
> > >Ick, no!
> > >
> > >Please consult with a lawyer before trying this.  I know a lot of them
> > >consider doing this just as forbidden as marking your module
> > >MODULE_LICENSE("GPL"); when it really isn't.
> > 
> > There will be a GPL'd layer, and it's likely that sysfs interaction will 
> > be on the GPL'd side anyway, for purely technical reasons.  But it does 
> > feel like circumvention of the limitations set in the kernel.
> 
> It is.  And as such, it is not allowed.
[snip]

So, what's the magic amount of redirection and abstraction that cleanses
the GPLness, hmm?  Who gets to wave the magic wand to say what
interfaces are GPL-to-non-GPL and which aren't?

For example, the IDE drivers use GPL symbols but the VFS does not.  So
anyone can write a proprietary filesystem which eventually gets around
to driving the IDE layer.  That is okay, but this isn't?

If the trend of making everything _GPL continues, I don't see any choice
for binary module vendors but to join together to develop a stable
driver API and build it as a GPL/BSD module.  Do the same API for BSD
systems to prove modules using it are not GPL derived.  Watch Greg foam.
It'd be fun.
--
Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-03  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-02 22:56 Pavel Roskin
2005-02-02 23:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-02 23:23 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-02-02 23:29   ` Greg KH
2005-02-03  0:07     ` Pavel Roskin
2005-02-03  0:30       ` Greg KH
2005-02-03  4:54         ` Zan Lynx [this message]
2005-02-03  5:07           ` Greg KH
2005-02-03  8:59           ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-03 15:12           ` Alan Cox
2005-02-03 17:26             ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-03 13:47         ` linux-os
2005-02-04 16:05       ` David Woodhouse
2005-02-03  0:09 ` Joseph Pingenot
2005-02-03  1:13   ` Pavel Roskin
2005-02-03  2:50     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-02-03  3:17       ` Jon Masters
2005-02-06  7:24       ` Lee Revell
2005-02-07 16:05         ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-07 16:55           ` linux-os
2005-02-07 18:58             ` jerome lacoste
2005-02-07 19:35               ` linux-os
2005-02-07 16:55           ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-02-08  1:40             ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-03  4:57     ` Greg KH
2005-02-03  8:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-03 21:00 ` Ben Greear
2005-02-04  9:20 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-04  9:40   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-15  1:41   ` Alan Cox
2005-02-03  4:08 Jonathan A. George
2005-02-03  5:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-02-03 12:30 Jonathan A. George
2005-02-04 15:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-02-17 23:13 parker
2005-02-18  3:32 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-18 13:13 ` Arjan van de Ven

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