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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, gerg@uclinux.org, jdike@karaya.com,
	sammy@sammy.net, lethal@linux-sh.org, wli@holomorphy.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, matthew@wil.cx, geert@linux-m68k.org,
	paulus@samba.org, davej@codemonkey.org.uk, tony.luck@intel.com,
	dev-etrax@axis.com, rpurdie@rpsys.net, spyro@f2s.com,
	Robert Wilkens <robw@optonline.net>,
	Bodo Stroesser <bstroesser@fujitsu-siemens.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Convert sigaction to act like other unices
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:04:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1124211863.5764.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a874849050814052035ad2838@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 14:20 +0200, Jesper Juhl wrote:
> On 8/13/05, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 10:00:14AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 14:39 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 10:40:02PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wroqte:
> > > > > Here's a patch that converts all architectures to behave like other unix
> > > > > boxes signal handling.  It's funny that I didn't need to change the m68k
> > > > > architecture, since it was the only one that already behaves this way!
> > > > > (the m68knommu does not!)
> > > >
> [snip]
> > 
> > My general feeling about the change is that it risks breaking programs
> > and doesn't seem to have any compelling advantages,
> > so unless there is a bug demonstrated I wouldn't apply it.
> > 
> > -Andi
> > 
> 
> As I see it, the advantages are that we would  a) match the
> documentation (man pages & posix/SUS) which makes things easier for
> application writers who won't have to scratch their beards wondering
> why Linux doesn't behave like the docs say. And  b) Linux behaviour
> would match what most (all?) other Unices do, so there'll be less
> hassle/bugs when porting apps from other systems to Linux.   To me,
> those look like significant bennefits.
> As for the "it may break programs" bit, that of course is a concern,
> but one way around that would be to stick it in -mm and let it cook
> for a few kernel releases. Say we stick it in -mm with a plan to merge
> it into 2.6.16-rc1, that should give it quite a bit of time to
> determine if it breaks apps (and if it does, to fix those apps).

Has there been a verdict on this.  Are we going to 

a) leave Linux "as-is" and be different than the man pages and POSIX as
well as pretty much every other Unix out there.  But..., we keep from
breaking any linux-only applications out there that actually depend on
this behaviour (if there were any).

b) add the patch (in -mm or early 14 or later), see if any applications
break, but we will finally match the man pages and etc.

Just curious.

-- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-16 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-13  2:40 Steven Rostedt
2005-08-13 12:39 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-13 14:00   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-08-13 21:29     ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-14 12:20       ` Jesper Juhl
2005-08-16 17:04         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2005-08-16 17:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-08-13 14:25   ` Steven Rostedt

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