From: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
glommer@br.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp,
linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net, aia21@cantab.net,
hch@infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use of getblk differs between locations
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:01:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1129017679.12336.7.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051010180705.0b0e3920.akpm@osdl.org>
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 18:07 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> > > Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Maybe the best solution is neither one nor another. Testing and failing
> > >> > gracefully seems better.
> > >> >
> > >> > What do you think?
> > >>
> > >> I certainly agree with you there. I neither want a deadlock nor
> > >> corruption. (-:
> > >
> > > Yup. In the present implementation __getblk_slow() "cannot fail". It's
> > > conceivable that at some future stage we'll change __getblk_slow() so that
> > > it returns NULL on an out-of-memory condition.
> >
> > The question is if it is desired --- it will make bread return NULL on
> > out-of-memory condition, callers will treat it like an IO error, skipping
> > access to the affected block, causing damage on perfectly healthy
> > filesystem.
>
> Yes, that is a bit dumb. A filesystem might indeed want to take different
> action for ENOMEM versus EIO.
>
> > I liked what linux-2.0 did in this case --- if the kernel was out of
> > memory, getblk just took another buffer, wrote it if it was dirty and used
> > it. Except for writeable loopback device (where writing one buffer
> > generates more dirty buffers), it couldn't deadlock.
>
> Wouldn't it be better if bread() were to return ERR_PTR(-EIO) or
> ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM)? Big change.
It would indeed. Much better. And whilst at it, it would be even
better if we had a lot more error codes like "ERR_PTR(-EDEVUNPLUGGED)"
for example... But that would be an even better change. Anyone feeling
like touching every block driver in the kernel? (-;
Best regards,
Anton
--
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge, CB2 3QH, UK
Linux NTFS maintainer / IRC: #ntfs on irc.freenode.net
WWW: http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/ & http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-11 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-10-10 20:45 Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 21:20 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 21:46 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 21:58 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 22:25 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 22:49 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:12 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 23:16 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:33 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 23:34 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:49 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-11 7:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-12 19:51 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-10-12 19:59 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-12 20:07 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-10-12 20:12 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-12 20:14 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-12 20:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-12 21:19 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-10-12 21:35 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-13 0:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-13 0:21 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-13 0:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-13 11:17 ` Pavel Machek
2005-10-14 16:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-14 18:26 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-13 0:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-12 20:08 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 22:36 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 22:28 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 23:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11 0:07 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-11 0:05 ` Al Viro
2005-10-11 0:40 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-11 12:35 ` Jan Hudec
2005-10-11 0:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-11 1:07 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11 1:20 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-11 5:02 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11 8:07 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-11 8:01 ` Anton Altaparmakov [this message]
2005-10-13 0:58 ` Mike Christie
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