From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
Cc: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, clg@fr.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, saw@sawoct.com, devel@openvz.org,
Dmitry Mishin <dim@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:43:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1139431435.9452.45.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43EA1008.5040502@sw.ru>
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 18:36 +0300, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
> - full isolation can be inconvinient from containers management point of
> view. You will need to introduce new modified tools such as top/ps/kill
> and many many others. You won't be able to strace/gdb processes from the
> host also.
I'd like to put a theory out there: the more isolation we perform, the
easier checkpointing and migration become to guarantee.
Agree? Disagree?
But, full isolation is hard to code. The right approach is very likely
somewhere in the middle where we require some things to happen
underneath us. For instance, requiring that the filesystem be made
consistent if a container is moved across systems.
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-08 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-06 21:57 Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] Virtualization/containers: CONFIG_CONTAINER Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] Virtualization/containers: UID hash Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] Virtualization/containers: uts name Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 23:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Dave Hansen
2006-02-07 12:24 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 3:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 3:40 ` Rik van Riel
2006-02-07 6:30 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 11:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 14:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 16:18 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:43 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 16:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 20:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-07 20:46 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 22:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:19 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 22:06 ` The issues for agreeing on a virtualization/namespaces implementation Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 23:35 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 0:43 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-08 2:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 3:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 3:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 4:37 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 4:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 19:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-02-08 5:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 14:40 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 15:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 15:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 15:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 19:02 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 16:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 17:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 18:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 18:31 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 20:21 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-08 21:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 12:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:41 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:26 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:16 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 4:56 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 14:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 14:51 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-09 4:45 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-09 5:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 22:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 23:18 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 5:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 14:13 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 15:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 16:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 2:08 ` Kevin Fox
2006-02-08 1:16 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-08 4:21 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 15:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 17:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 20:43 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2006-02-08 21:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 12:14 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 14:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2006-02-07 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 0:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 2:18 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 3:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 14:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-09 15:40 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 15:49 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-09 17:50 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 16:38 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-09 17:48 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 22:09 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-09 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
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