From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, clg@fr.ibm.com,
haveblue@us.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
arjan@infradead.org, saw@sawoct.com, devel@openvz.org,
Dmitry Mishin <dim@sw.ru>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
Subject: Re: The issues for agreeing on a virtualization/namespaces implementation.
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:52:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1d5hybj80.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060208033633.GA8784@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2006 21:36:33 -0600")
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:
>
> What I tried to do in a proof of concept long ago was to have
> CLONE_NETNS mean that you get access to all the network devices, but
> then you could drop/add them. Conceptually I prefer that to getting an
> empty namespace, but I'm not sure whether there's any practical use
> where you'd want that...
My observation was that the network stack does not come out cleanly
as a namespace unless you adopt the rule that a network device
belongs to exactly one network namespace.
With that rule dealing with the network stack is just a matter of making
some currently global variables/data structures per container.
A pain to do the first round but easy to maintain once you are there
and the logic of the code doesn't need to change.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-08 3:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-06 21:57 [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] Virtualization/containers: CONFIG_CONTAINER Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] Virtualization/containers: UID hash Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] Virtualization/containers: uts name Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 23:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Dave Hansen
2006-02-07 12:24 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 3:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 3:40 ` Rik van Riel
2006-02-07 6:30 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 11:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 14:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 16:18 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:43 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 16:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 20:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-07 20:46 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 22:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:19 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 22:06 ` The issues for agreeing on a virtualization/namespaces implementation Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 23:35 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 0:43 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-08 2:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 3:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 3:52 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-02-08 4:37 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 4:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 19:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-02-08 5:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 14:40 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 15:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 15:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 15:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 19:02 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 16:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 17:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 18:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 18:31 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 20:21 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-08 21:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 12:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:41 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:26 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:16 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 4:56 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 14:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 14:51 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-09 4:45 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-09 5:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 22:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 23:18 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 5:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 14:13 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 15:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 16:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 2:08 ` Kevin Fox
2006-02-08 1:16 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-08 4:21 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 15:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 17:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 20:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-08 21:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 12:14 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 14:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2006-02-07 15:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 0:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 2:18 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 3:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 14:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-09 15:40 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 15:49 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-09 17:50 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 16:38 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-09 17:48 ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 22:09 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-09 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
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