From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Which kernel is the best for a small linux system?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:24:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1142522659.8195.33.camel@homer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142327130.8075.30.camel@homer>
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 10:05 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 08:29 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org> wrote:
> >
> > > scheduler is still a big problem. Not only we occasionally see people
> > > complaining about unfair CPU distribution across processes (may be
> > > fixed now), but the scheduler still gives a huge boost to I/O
> > > intensive tasks which do lots of select() with small time-outs, which
> > > makes it practically unusable in network-intensive environments. I've
> > > observed systems on which it was nearly impossible to log in via SSH
> > > because of this, and I could reproduce the problem locally to create a
> > > local DoS where a single user could prevent anybody from logging in.
> > > 2.6.15 has improved a lot on this (pauses have reduced from 35 seconds
> > > to 4 seconds) but it's still not very good.
>
> Hi Willy,
>
> BTW, if you try my stuff, it'd be good to try just the "cleanup" patch
> first. It seems very likely to me that your problem is mostly caused by
> the sleep_avg multiplier. If the first patch cures your woes, try
> killing just the multiplier in virgin source.
Hi again Willy,
Well. I've done some testing with apache, and I can reproduce the
problem... too darn well in fact. It's really bad in 2.6.15 here as
well, and while removing the sleep_avg multiplier and the requeue in
schedule() improved things quite a bit, I still have nasty 30s delays
while trying to pipe commands. These things alone apparently aren't
going to be enough if you want to ssh into a busy server.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-16 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-13 0:40 j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-13 8:00 ` Lexington Luthor
2006-03-15 1:35 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-15 1:46 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-13 8:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-13 18:03 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-13 18:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-14 6:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-14 7:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-14 8:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-14 9:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-14 15:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-16 15:24 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2006-03-14 10:03 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-14 22:21 ` Russell King
2006-03-15 0:46 ` Grant Coady
[not found] ` <20060315080313.GC3166@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2006-03-15 9:37 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-15 22:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-15 23:32 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-16 4:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 8:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 8:31 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-16 8:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 9:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 2:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-03-13 18:27 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-03-13 18:41 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-13 19:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-14 0:18 ` j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-13 19:08 ` Diego Calleja
2006-03-13 22:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-03-13 22:01 ` j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-13 22:20 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-03-13 22:33 ` j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-16 12:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:25 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-14 3:53 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-15 22:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-15 23:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-16 13:39 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
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