From: Grant Coady <gcoady@gmail.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
j4K3xBl4sT3r <jakexblaster@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Which kernel is the best for a small linux system?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:32:19 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f78h1292orlp3vnrm2qq9c040ech0eduhg@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603152347210.20859@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:53:21 +0100 (MET), Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de> wrote:
>
>>> By stable I mean rate of change of codebase, patch volume per month,
>>> 2.6 is orders of magnitude less stable than 2.4 by that simple measure.
>>
>>That is no measure of stability.
>>
>
>Ack! Let's pick one:
>
>Although the exact numbers of patches per time for a specific
>software manufacturer - let's pick Microsoft as an example - is not known,
>it is usually low (two for this *month* afaics), compared to what hits lkml
>*each day*.
>
>Does that make their software more stable than Linux? I would have my
>doubts about that.
Yeah but MSFT has been very stably broken for many years ;)
Anyway, what I'm trying to put forward is the notion that the high
patch churn rate in l-k indicates a non-stable, experimental piece
of work which may one day result in a stable kernel. But at the
moment I'll run 24/7 apps on a 2.4.latest box.
That some here choose to bend that point of view into an unintended
meaning has nothing to do with the simple reality that, for what I
use linux for, 2.6 is a such sluggish performing kernel that I soon
revert to 2.4.latest on the one box that runs 24/7 here.
If you cannot accept that, fine, ridicule the testers feedback you
do not want to hear.
Certainly provides little motivation for testers to provide any
feedback does it not? I've had two threads on sluggish terminal
here performance without resolution. 2.6 feels sluggish, the test
is simple and repeatable, your ridicule does not change that at all.
2.4.early was a dog of a kernel, I was often bouncing between Linus'
and ac' branches back then depending on which was working in a
particular week. It got better, as will 2.6. Maybe by 2.6.20+ ?
Grant.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-15 23:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-13 0:40 j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-13 8:00 ` Lexington Luthor
2006-03-15 1:35 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-15 1:46 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-13 8:17 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-13 18:03 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-13 18:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-14 6:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-14 7:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-03-14 8:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-14 9:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-14 15:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-03-16 15:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-14 10:03 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-14 22:21 ` Russell King
2006-03-15 0:46 ` Grant Coady
[not found] ` <20060315080313.GC3166@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2006-03-15 9:37 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-15 22:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-15 23:32 ` Grant Coady [this message]
2006-03-16 4:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 8:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 8:31 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-16 8:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 9:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-16 2:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-03-13 18:27 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-03-13 18:41 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-13 19:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-14 0:18 ` j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-13 19:08 ` Diego Calleja
2006-03-13 22:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-03-13 22:01 ` j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-13 22:20 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-03-13 22:33 ` j4K3xBl4sT3r
2006-03-16 12:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:25 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-14 3:53 ` Grant Coady
2006-03-15 22:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-15 23:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-16 13:39 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
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