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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Dan Bonachea <bonachead@comcast.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: pthread-safety bug in write(2) on Linux 2.6.x
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:11:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1144969908.12387.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20060413145913.03436f38@comcast.net>

On Iau, 2006-04-13 at 15:06 -0700, Dan Bonachea wrote:
> Unless I'm missing something, that doesn't leave much ambiguity regarding 
> what's required for POSIX compliance on this issue (although I'm not sure 
> POSIX compliance is the right metric).

Interesting. That pretty much conflicts with what write(2) itself is
defined as in the same specification, and means that the locking is
specific to posix thread groups not to processes. Well we've always
known that pthreads was a brain dead screw-up of a specification so I
guess that should be no suprise.

If the locking is thread group specific it may actually be best to
handle that one in glibc with a futex lock, as only glibc really knows
what is a posix pthread app, and it would avoid the idiocy escaping into
normal applications (which are 95+% of cases)

What does Ulrich think ?


Alan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-13 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-13  1:45 Dan Bonachea
2006-04-13  2:10 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-04-13  4:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-13  5:33   ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-13 15:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 15:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-14 10:20         ` Nikita Danilov
2006-04-13 21:50       ` Alan Cox
2006-04-13 22:06         ` Dan Bonachea
2006-04-13 23:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 23:11           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-04-13 23:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 22:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 23:05           ` Alan Cox
2006-04-13 23:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 23:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13  9:18   ` Dan Bonachea
2006-04-13  9:56     ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-13 10:28       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-13 14:14     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-19 22:45 ` Jens Moser
     [not found] <60Z8f-4QA-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <611Wl-u5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <616k2-6Xz-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-04-14  9:14     ` Kai Henningsen
2006-04-27  9:06 Samuel Thibault
2006-04-27 15:23 ` Linus Torvalds

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