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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Dan Bonachea <bonachead@comcast.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: pthread-safety bug in write(2) on Linux 2.6.x
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 02:56:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060413025608.3edbf603.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20060413015645.033d3fc8@comcast.net>

Dan Bonachea <bonachead@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> This problem arose in the parallel runtime system for a scientific language 
>  compiler (nearly a million lines of code total - definitely a "real-world" 
>  program) - the example code is merely a pared-down demonstration of the 
>  problem. In parallel scientific computing, it's very common for many threads 
>  to be writing to stdout (usually for monitoring purposes) and it's expected 
>  and normal for output from separate threads to be arbitrarily interleaved, but 
>  it's *not* ok for output to be lost entirely. This is essentially equivalent 
>  to the real-world example you gave of many threads logging to a file.

Interesting - afaik that's the first time this has been hit in a real
application.

>  We've worked around the problem in Linux 2.6 by adding locking at user-level 
>  around our writes, as you suggest, although this of course penalizes our 
>  performance on kernels that already correctly implement the thread-safety 
>  required by the POSIX spec. In any case it seemed like a problem that we 
>  should report, to be good open-source citizens - especially given that it 
>  appears to be a regression with respect to the Linux 2.4 kernel. How you 
>  choose to handle the report is of course your decision.

yup, thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-13  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-13  1:45 Dan Bonachea
2006-04-13  2:10 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-04-13  4:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-13  5:33   ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-13 15:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 15:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-14 10:20         ` Nikita Danilov
2006-04-13 21:50       ` Alan Cox
2006-04-13 22:06         ` Dan Bonachea
2006-04-13 23:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 23:11           ` Alan Cox
2006-04-13 23:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 22:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 23:05           ` Alan Cox
2006-04-13 23:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13 23:11               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-13  9:18   ` Dan Bonachea
2006-04-13  9:56     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-04-13 10:28       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-13 14:14     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-19 22:45 ` Jens Moser
     [not found] <60Z8f-4QA-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <611Wl-u5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <616k2-6Xz-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-04-14  9:14     ` Kai Henningsen
2006-04-27  9:06 Samuel Thibault
2006-04-27 15:23 ` Linus Torvalds

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