From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Jason Schoonover <jasons@pioneer-pra.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: High load average on disk I/O on 2.6.17-rc3
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 19:18:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147108683.8026.52.camel@homer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060508154217.GH1875@harddisk-recovery.com>
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 17:42 +0200, Erik Mouw wrote:
> On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 05:31:29PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 17:22 +0200, Erik Mouw wrote:
> > > ... except that any kernel < 2.6 didn't account tasks waiting for disk
> > > IO.
> >
> > they did. It was "D" state, which counted into load average.
>
> They did not or at least to a much lesser extent. That's the reason why
> ZenIV.linux.org.uk had a mail DoS during the last FC release and why we
> see load average questions on lkml.
I distinctly recall it counting, but since I don't have a 2.4 tree
handy, I'll refrain from saying "did _too_" ;-)
> I've seen it on our servers as well: when using 2.4 and doing 50 MB/s
> to disk (through NFS), the load just was slightly above 0. When we
> switched the servers to 2.6 it went to ~16 for the same disk usage.
The main difference I see is...
8129 root 15 0 3500 512 432 D 56.0 0.0 0:33.72 bonnie
1393 root 10 -5 0 0 0 D 0.4 0.0 0:00.26 kjournald
8135 root 15 0 0 0 0 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 pdflush
573 root 15 0 0 0 0 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
574 root 15 0 0 0 0 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 pdflush
8131 root 15 0 0 0 0 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 pdflush
8141 root 15 0 0 0 0 D 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
With 2.4, there was only one flush thread. Same load, different
loadavg... in this particular case of one user task running. IIRC, if
you had a bunch of things running and running you low on memory, you
could end up with a slew of 'D' state tasks in 2.4 as well, because
allocating tasks had to help free memory by flushing buffers and pushing
swap. Six to one, half a dozen to the other.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-08 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-05 17:10 Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 23:03 ` bert hubert
2006-05-07 1:02 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-07 10:54 ` bert hubert
2006-05-07 16:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-07 17:24 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-08 11:13 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 11:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 11:28 ` Russell King
2006-05-08 11:38 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-08 12:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-09 14:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-05-08 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 14:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 15:22 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 15:25 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 15:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 15:42 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 16:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 16:02 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2006-05-08 16:47 ` Russell King
2006-05-08 17:04 ` Gabor Gombas
2006-05-08 17:18 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2006-05-09 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 2:02 ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-09 2:16 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 4:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-09 4:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 5:27 ` Hua Zhong
2006-05-09 5:03 ` David Lang
2006-05-15 7:46 ` Sander
2006-05-08 22:24 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-05-08 22:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-09 0:08 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-09 18:33 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] <69c8K-3Bu-57@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-05-05 23:12 ` Robert Hancock
2006-05-06 4:39 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 17:20 ` Robert Hancock
2006-05-06 18:23 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 20:01 ` Robert Hancock
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