From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Erik Mouw <erik@harddisk-recovery.com>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Jason Schoonover <jasons@pioneer-pra.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: High load average on disk I/O on 2.6.17-rc3
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 06:36:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1147149399.3198.10.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <445FF714.4050803@yahoo.com.au>
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 11:57 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>
> >>... except that any kernel < 2.6 didn't account tasks waiting for disk
> >>IO.
> >>
> >
> >they did. It was "D" state, which counted into load average.
> >
>
> Perhaps kernel threads in D state should not contribute toward load avg
that would be a change from, well... a LONG time
The question is what "load" means; if you want to change that... then
there are even better metrics possible. Like
"number of processes wanting to run + number of busy spindles + number
of busy nics + number of VM zones that are below the problem
watermark" (where "busy" means "queue full")
or 50 million other definitions. If we're going to change the meaning,
we might as well give it a "real" meaning.
(And even then it is NOT a good measure for determining if the machine
can perform more work, the graph I put in a previous mail is very real,
and in practice it seems the saturation line is easily 4x or 5x of the
"linear" point)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-09 4:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-05 17:10 Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 23:03 ` bert hubert
2006-05-07 1:02 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-07 10:54 ` bert hubert
2006-05-07 16:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-07 17:24 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-08 11:13 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 11:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 11:28 ` Russell King
2006-05-08 11:38 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-08 12:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-09 14:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-05-08 14:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 14:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 15:22 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 15:25 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 15:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08 15:42 ` Erik Mouw
2006-05-08 16:02 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-08 16:02 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2006-05-08 16:47 ` Russell King
2006-05-08 17:04 ` Gabor Gombas
2006-05-08 17:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-09 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 2:02 ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-09 2:16 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 4:36 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-05-09 4:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-09 5:27 ` Hua Zhong
2006-05-09 5:03 ` David Lang
2006-05-15 7:46 ` Sander
2006-05-08 22:24 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-05-08 22:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-09 0:08 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-09 18:33 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] <69c8K-3Bu-57@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-05-05 23:12 ` Robert Hancock
2006-05-06 4:39 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 17:20 ` Robert Hancock
2006-05-06 18:23 ` Jason Schoonover
2006-05-06 20:01 ` Robert Hancock
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