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From: Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
	nagar@watson.ibm.com, akpm@osdl.org, vatsa@in.ibm.com,
	mingo@elte.hu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, sam@vilain.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvz.org, efault@gmx.de,
	balbir@in.ibm.com, sekharan@us.ibm.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [ProbableSpam] Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu  controller
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:19:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154974798.31962.30.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060807101518.aef1f06e.pj@sgi.com>

On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 10:15 -0700, Paul Jackson wrote:
> > we have a /proc which is very convenient for use from shell etc. but
> > is not good for applications, not fast enough etc.
> > moreover, /proc had always problems with locking, races and people tend to
> > feel like they can change text presention of data, while applications parsing
> > it tend to break.
> 
> Yes - one can botch a file system API.
> 
> One can botch syscalls, too.  Do you love 'ioctl'?
> 
> For some calls, the performance of a raw syscall is critical.  And
> eventually, filesystem API's must resolve to raw file i/o syscalls.
> 
> But for these sorts of system configuration and management, the
> difference in performance between file system API's and raw syscall
> API's is not one of the decisive issues that determines success or
> failure.
> 
> Getting a decent API that naturally reflects the long term essential
> shape of the data is one of these decisive issues.
> 

Absolutely.  Performance is really not a key here.  Setting-up (or
Tearing down) these  operations shouldn't be that frequent.  Configfs
(or proc) should be able to handle those.


-rohit



  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-07 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-04  5:07 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:09 ` [ RFC, PATCH 1/5 ] CPU controller - base changes Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  7:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:18     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:34   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:50     ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-04 14:51     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:10 ` [ RFC, PATCH 2/5 ] CPU controller - Define group operations Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 23:10   ` Jiri Slaby
2006-08-04  5:11 ` [ RFC, PATCH 3/5 ] CPU controller - deal with movement of tasks Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:12 ` [ RFC, PATCH 4/5 ] CPU controller - deal with dont care groups Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:13 ` [ RFC, PATCH 5/5 ] CPU controller - interface with cpusets Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:36 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  5:42   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  9:49     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 11:41       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:51         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 15:31           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 16:03             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 17:02               ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 18:27               ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 19:11                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 19:24                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07  7:19                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:14                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-08  7:17                     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:16                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 17:50           ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-07  7:25             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 14:34               ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-07 16:33                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 18:31                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 18:43                     ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-07 19:00                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 19:46                         ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-08 14:19                           ` memory resource accounting (was Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller) Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 14:57                             ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-08 15:22                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 13:43                                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:08                             ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-09  1:54                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 17:34                             ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-09  4:33                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09  6:00                               ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-09  6:06                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09  6:56                             ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-08  7:19                     ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:16         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:49           ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 17:03             ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 18:17               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07  7:23               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:57       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04  5:58   ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:02   ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:16     ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:20   ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04  6:31     ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:37       ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04  6:49         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  6:45     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  7:10       ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04  7:24         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 19:10       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-04  6:56   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  7:13     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:16       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 18:51         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 14:20   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04 15:29     ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07  7:29       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07  9:30         ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 15:58           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-07 16:10           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:15             ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 18:19               ` Rohit Seth [this message]
2006-08-05  3:30   ` Nick Piggin

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