From: Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>
To: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
vatsa@in.ibm.com, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, sam@vilain.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvz.org, efault@gmx.de,
balbir@in.ibm.com, sekharan@us.ibm.com, nagar@watson.ibm.com,
haveblue@us.ibm.com, pj@sgi.com, Andrey Savochkin <saw@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:31:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154975486.31962.40.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44D76B43.5080507@sw.ru>
On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 20:33 +0400, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
> >> we already have the code to account page fractions shared between
> >> containers.
> >> Though, it is quite useless to do so for threads... Since this numbers
> >> have no meaning (not a real usage)
> >> and only the sum of it will be a correct value.
> >>
> > THat sort of accounting poses various horrible problems, which is
> > why we steered away from it. If you share pages between containers
> > (presumably billing them equal shares per user), what happens
> > when you're already at your limit, and one of your sharer's exits?
> you come across your limit and new allocations will fail.
> BUT! IMPORTANT!
> in real life use case with OpenVZ we allow sharing not that much data across containers:
> vmas mapped as private, i.e. glibc and other libraries .data section
> (and .code if it is writable). So if you use the same glibc and other executables
> in the containers then your are charged only a fraction of phys memory used by it.
> This kind of sharing is not that huge (<< memory limits usually),
> so the situation you described is not a problem
> in real life (at least for OpenVZ).
>
I think it is not a problem for OpenVZ because there is not that much of
sharing going between containers as you mentioned (btw, this least
amount of sharing is a very good thing). Though I'm not sure if one has
to go to the extent of doing fractions with memory accounting. If the
containers are set up in such a way that there is some sharing across
containers then it is okay to be unfair and charge one of those
containers for the specific resource completely.
-rohit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-07 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-04 5:07 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:09 ` [ RFC, PATCH 1/5 ] CPU controller - base changes Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 7:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:34 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:50 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-04 14:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:10 ` [ RFC, PATCH 2/5 ] CPU controller - Define group operations Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 23:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-08-04 5:11 ` [ RFC, PATCH 3/5 ] CPU controller - deal with movement of tasks Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:12 ` [ RFC, PATCH 4/5 ] CPU controller - deal with dont care groups Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:13 ` [ RFC, PATCH 5/5 ] CPU controller - interface with cpusets Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:36 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 5:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 9:49 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 11:41 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 15:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 16:03 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 17:02 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 18:27 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 19:11 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 19:24 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 7:19 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:14 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-08 7:17 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 17:50 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-07 7:25 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 14:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-07 16:33 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 18:31 ` Rohit Seth [this message]
2006-08-07 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-07 19:00 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 19:46 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-08 14:19 ` memory resource accounting (was Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller) Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 14:57 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-08 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 13:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:08 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-09 1:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 17:34 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-09 4:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09 6:00 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-09 6:06 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09 6:56 ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-08 7:19 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:16 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:49 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 17:03 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 18:17 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07 7:23 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:57 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 5:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:02 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:20 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 6:31 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:37 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 6:49 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 6:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 7:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 19:10 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-04 6:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 7:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:16 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 14:20 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04 15:29 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07 7:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 9:30 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 15:58 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-07 16:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 18:19 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-05 3:30 ` Nick Piggin
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