From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: rohitseth@google.com
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, sam@vilain.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvz.org, efault@gmx.de,
balbir@in.ibm.com, sekharan@us.ibm.com, nagar@watson.ibm.com,
haveblue@us.ibm.com, pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:17:17 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44D83A7D.80600@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1154970846.31962.17.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com>
>>>>>Doesnt the ability to move tasks between groups dynamically affect
>>>>>(atleast) memory controller design (in giving up ownership etc)?
>>>>
>>>>we save object owner on the object. So if you change the container,
>>>>objects are still correctly charged to the creator and are uncharged
>>>>correctly on free.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Seems like the object owner should also change when the object moves
>>>from one container to another.
>
>
>>Consider a file which is opened in 2 processes. one of the processes
>>wants to move to another container then. How would you decide whether
>>to change the file owner or not?
>>
>
>
> If a process has sufficient rights to move a file to a new container
> then it should be okay to assign the file to the new container.
there is no such notion as "rights to move a file to a new container".
The same file can be opened in processes belonging to other containers.
And you have no any clue whether to have to change the owner or not.
> Though the point is, if a resource (like file) is getting migrated to a
> new container then all the attributes (like owner, #pages in memory
> etc.) attached to that resource (file) should also migrate to this new
> container. Otherwise the semantics of where does the resource belong
> becomes very difficult.
The same for many other resources. It is a big mistake thinking that most resources
belong to the processes and the owner process can be easily determined.
> And if you really want a resource to not be able to migrate from one
> container then we could define IMMUTABLE flag to indicate that behavior.
I hope not that one used in ext[23]? :)
Kirill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-08 7:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-04 5:07 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:09 ` [ RFC, PATCH 1/5 ] CPU controller - base changes Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 7:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:34 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:50 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-04 14:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:10 ` [ RFC, PATCH 2/5 ] CPU controller - Define group operations Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 23:10 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-08-04 5:11 ` [ RFC, PATCH 3/5 ] CPU controller - deal with movement of tasks Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:12 ` [ RFC, PATCH 4/5 ] CPU controller - deal with dont care groups Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:13 ` [ RFC, PATCH 5/5 ] CPU controller - interface with cpusets Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 5:36 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 5:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 9:49 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 11:41 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 15:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 16:03 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 17:02 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 18:27 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 19:11 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 19:24 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 7:19 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:14 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-08 7:17 ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-08-08 17:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 17:50 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-07 7:25 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 14:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-07 16:33 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 18:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-07 19:00 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 19:46 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-08 14:19 ` memory resource accounting (was Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller) Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 14:57 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-08 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 13:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:08 ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-09 1:54 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 17:34 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-09 4:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09 6:00 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-09 6:06 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09 6:56 ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-08 7:19 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:16 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:49 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 17:03 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 18:17 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07 7:23 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:57 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 5:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:02 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:20 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 6:31 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04 6:37 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 6:49 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 6:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 7:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 19:10 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-04 6:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 7:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:16 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 14:20 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04 15:29 ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07 7:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 9:30 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 15:58 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-07 16:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 18:19 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-05 3:30 ` Nick Piggin
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