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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: rohitseth@google.com
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, sam@vilain.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvz.org, efault@gmx.de,
	balbir@in.ibm.com, sekharan@us.ibm.com, nagar@watson.ibm.com,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com, pj@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management -	A	cpu controller
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:17:17 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44D83A7D.80600@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1154970846.31962.17.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com>

>>>>>Doesnt the ability to move tasks between groups dynamically affect
>>>>>(atleast) memory controller design (in giving up ownership etc)?
>>>>
>>>>we save object owner on the object. So if you change the container,
>>>>objects are still correctly charged to the creator and are uncharged
>>>>correctly on free.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Seems like the object owner should also change when the object moves
>>>from one container to another.
> 
> 
>>Consider a file which is opened in 2 processes. one of the processes
>>wants to move to another container then. How would you decide whether
>>to change the file owner or not?
>>
> 
> 
> If a process has sufficient rights to move a file to a new container
> then it should be okay to assign the file to the new container.  
there is no such notion as  "rights to move a file to a new container".
The same file can be opened in processes belonging to other containers.
And you have no any clue whether to have to change the owner or not.

> Though the point is, if a resource (like file) is getting migrated to a
> new container then all the attributes (like owner, #pages in memory
> etc.) attached to that resource (file) should also migrate to this new
> container.  Otherwise the semantics of where does the resource belong
> becomes very difficult.
The same for many other resources. It is a big mistake thinking that most resources
belong to the processes and the owner process can be easily determined.

> And if you really want a resource to not be able to migrate from one
> container then we could define IMMUTABLE flag to indicate that behavior.
I hope not that one used in ext[23]? :)

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-08  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-04  5:07 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:09 ` [ RFC, PATCH 1/5 ] CPU controller - base changes Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  7:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:18     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:34   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:50     ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-04 14:51     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:10 ` [ RFC, PATCH 2/5 ] CPU controller - Define group operations Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 23:10   ` Jiri Slaby
2006-08-04  5:11 ` [ RFC, PATCH 3/5 ] CPU controller - deal with movement of tasks Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:12 ` [ RFC, PATCH 4/5 ] CPU controller - deal with dont care groups Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:13 ` [ RFC, PATCH 5/5 ] CPU controller - interface with cpusets Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  5:36 ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  5:42   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  9:49     ` Alan Cox
2006-08-04 11:41       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 14:51         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 15:31           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 16:03             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 17:02               ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 18:27               ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 19:11                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 19:24                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07  7:19                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:14                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-08  7:17                     ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-08-08 17:16                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-04 17:50           ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-07  7:25             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 14:34               ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-08-07 16:33                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 18:31                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 18:43                     ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-07 19:00                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-07 19:46                         ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-08 14:19                           ` memory resource accounting (was Re: [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller) Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 14:57                             ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-08 15:22                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 13:43                                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-08 17:08                             ` Martin Bligh
2006-08-09  1:54                               ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 17:34                             ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-09  4:33                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09  6:00                               ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-09  6:06                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-09  6:56                             ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-08  7:19                     ` [RFC, PATCH 0/5] Going forward with Resource Management - A cpu controller Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:16         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 16:49           ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-04 17:03             ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04 18:17               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07  7:23               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:57       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04  5:58   ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:02   ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:16     ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:20   ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04  6:31     ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-04  6:37       ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04  6:49         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  6:45     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04  7:10       ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-04  7:24         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 19:10       ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-04  6:56   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04  7:13     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 11:16       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-04 18:51         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-04 14:20   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-04 14:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-04 15:29     ` [ProbableSpam] " Shailabh Nagar
2006-08-07  7:29       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07  9:30         ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 15:58           ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-07 16:10           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-07 17:15             ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-07 18:19               ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-05  3:30   ` Nick Piggin

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