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From: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
To: Peter Feuerer <peter@piie.net>
Cc: petkovbb@gmail.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lenb@kernel.org, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:31:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1240950704.3781.12.camel@maxim-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1240949852.549814.7466.1000@mentalhome>

On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 22:17 +0200, Peter Feuerer wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
> 
> >> Their N270 datasheet
> >> (http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320032.pdf) talks
> >> about max Tj (junction temperature) being 90°C for a TDP of 2.5W and if
> >> you operate below that limit "functionality and long-term reliability
> >> can be expected." :)
> >> 
> >> There's also an internal termtrip sensor which is designed to go off at
> >> Tj=125°C so, yeah, I guess something 70°C should be ok.
> > 
> > I have small note:
> > 
> > So yes cpu can withstand 90 C, but will rest of the motherboard?
> > 
> > (Most other cpus are rated at 60C)
> 
> That's why the module is started in "user mode" where the bios controls the 
> fan. - The Bios just starts the fan as soon as the temperature is higher 
> than 40 degree celsius.
> 
> The user must explicitely start "kernel mode" to make the kernel 
> controlling the fan. Maybe we should add a warning somewhere, that it could 
> harm the hardware?
Then its fine.

(I probably won't turn fan off though).

I have a aspire one, so I install this driver.
one more note thought, you might want to rename it to something else,
or maybe merge with acer-wmi?

If I understand correctly, this driver also provides temperature
reading, which is in my opinion very nice.
Thus, this seems more a 'acer aspire extras'

Or, maybe even better, maybe you can name it a 'EC extra driver', since
today many notebooks are controlled via EC, and thus you or other
contributors might add more features to this driver.
How about a EC register dump for example in /sys, so users could look at
EC registers comfortably

But of course, I think this driver should first be merged.

Another small note, is would be very nice to have a locking mechanism
for EC reads/writes, so there would be no conflicts between accesses.

For example my main notebook, acer 5720, has semi broken fan control
(they broke it in newer bioses, but I have to use them, because fan
won't work at all in 64-bit OS I use (linux of course).

There is a way to control the fan, by writing fake temperatures to EC
and doing that very often, since I think SMI writes there too.
But when I do so, ofnen other EC related things fail, like brightness
control for example. I think this is due to the fact that acer_ec does
direct I/O.

so I would like to see a interface to read/write EC properly.

Best regards, and thanks,
	Maxim Levitsky




  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-28 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-25  1:45 Peter Feuerer
2009-04-25  8:42 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-26 15:31   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-04-27 18:25     ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-26 17:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-27 18:57     ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-28  7:25       ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-28 10:04         ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-04-28 20:17           ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-28 20:31             ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2009-05-02 21:21               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-03 18:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-06 19:41                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-06 22:17                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-09 17:14                     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-11 18:05                       ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-12  6:02                         ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-18 18:04                           ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-18 20:20                             ` Joe Perches
2009-05-19  6:47                               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-19  7:06                                 ` Joe Perches
2009-05-24 19:22                             ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-01 14:12                               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03  7:35                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03  8:10                                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 10:52                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03 11:29                                       ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 13:07                                       ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 14:49                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-01 14:18                               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03  7:39                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03  7:52                                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03  8:00                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-19 20:30                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-22 11:50                           ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-22 14:09                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-22 14:53                               ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-24 11:13                                 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-22 16:10                               ` [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Contro Andreas Mohr
2009-05-22 18:24                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-22 19:35                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-04-26 22:20   ` [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control Joe Perches
2009-04-27 19:03     ` Peter Feuerer

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