From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
randy.dunlap@oracle.com, wcohen@redhat.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, jbaron@redhat.com, mhiramat@redhat.com,
linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [tip:perf/core] tracing: Add DEFINE_EVENT(), DEFINE_SINGLE_EVENT() support to docbook
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:19:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1259777987.12870.70.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091202180633.GF9710@Krystal>
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:06 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> *
> Hrm. I wonder if having DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS is really worth having,
> considering that it really just does 2 things at once and may be
> confusing.
We keep it because that's what TRACE_EVENT currently is. It would suck
to have to replace every TRACE_EVENT there is now with a
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS and DEFINE_EVENT. Although this would push
developers into using classes.
>
> I would have thought amongst the lines of the following as main API
> (note: "SKETCH" is only a proposal. The idea is to do _not_ use
> declare/define, as it's really something _different_ than what people
> are expecting!)
>
> SKETCH_EVENT_CLASS()
>
> SKETCH_EVENT()
>
> Which would use only DECLARE, or both DECLARE and DEFINE depending if
> CREATE_TRACE_POINTS is set. I see the DECLARE/DEFINE more as the
> "low-level" macros that are actually selected by CREATE_TRACE_POINTS:
>
> DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS : only performs event class declarations (macros,
> inlines...)
>
> DECLARE_EVENT : only performs event instance declarations (macros,
> inlines, ...). Depends on the DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS().
>
> DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS : create instances of template functions.
>
> DEFINE_EVENT : create event tracepoint functions. Depends on
> DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS().
>
> This way, it should make digging into the generation system internals
> headhache-free. ;) I think we should really avoid re-using terms people
> are familiar with for things that have a semantic intrincially different
> than what people come to expect.
Egad No! It would make it a living nightmare. The internals reuse the
define macro, and there's no intermediate. By changing the
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS to another name (SKETCH_EVENT_CLASS) we would have
to add something like this:
#define SKETCH_EVENT_CLASS(name, proto, args, tstruct, print) \
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS(name, PARAMS(proto), PARAMS(args),\
PARAMS(tstruct), PARAMS(print))
We don't have a intermediate or "low level" macro in use here. Whatever
we give to the user is what we use.
I think the kernel developers are smart enough to figure out that these
macros are not a typical DECLARE/DEFINE that is elsewhere. But I think
using the DECLARE/DEFINE names will give them a better idea of what is
happening than to make up something completely new.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-02 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-01 17:18 [PATCH v2] tracing: add " Jason Baron
2009-12-01 17:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-02 10:42 ` [tip:perf/core] tracing: Add " tip-bot for Jason Baron
2009-12-02 13:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 14:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-02 14:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 14:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-02 14:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 16:15 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-02 16:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 17:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 18:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2009-12-02 19:01 ` trace/events: DECLARE vs DEFINE semantic Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 19:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 19:34 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-02 22:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-02 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 22:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-02 23:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 23:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-02 23:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03 3:24 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-02 23:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03 4:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-03 4:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 13:51 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-03 13:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 14:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03 14:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 14:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03 15:31 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-03 15:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 16:11 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-02 20:11 ` [PATCH][tip/perf/core] tracing: Rename TRACE_EVENT and others to something resonable Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 20:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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