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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	randy.dunlap@oracle.com, wcohen@redhat.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, jbaron@redhat.com, mhiramat@redhat.com,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [tip:perf/core] tracing: Add DEFINE_EVENT(), DEFINE_SINGLE_EVENT() support to docbook
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:19:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1259777987.12870.70.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091202180633.GF9710@Krystal>

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:06 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> *
> Hrm. I wonder if having DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS is really worth having,
> considering that it really just does 2 things at once and may be
> confusing.

We keep it because that's what TRACE_EVENT currently is. It would suck
to have to replace every TRACE_EVENT there is now with a
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS and DEFINE_EVENT. Although this would push
developers into using classes.

> 
> I would have thought amongst the lines of the following as main API
> (note: "SKETCH" is only a proposal. The idea is to do _not_ use
> declare/define, as it's really something _different_ than what people
> are expecting!)
> 
> SKETCH_EVENT_CLASS()
> 
> SKETCH_EVENT()
> 
> Which would use only DECLARE, or both DECLARE and DEFINE depending if
> CREATE_TRACE_POINTS is set. I see the DECLARE/DEFINE more as the
> "low-level" macros that are actually selected by CREATE_TRACE_POINTS:
> 
> DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS : only performs event class declarations (macros,
> inlines...)
> 
> DECLARE_EVENT : only performs event instance declarations (macros,
> inlines, ...). Depends on the DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS().
> 
> DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS : create instances of template functions.
> 
> DEFINE_EVENT : create event tracepoint functions. Depends on
> DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS().
> 
> This way, it should make digging into the generation system internals
> headhache-free. ;) I think we should really avoid re-using terms people
> are familiar with for things that have a semantic intrincially different
> than what people come to expect.

Egad No! It would make it a living nightmare. The internals reuse the
define macro, and there's no intermediate. By changing the
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS to another name (SKETCH_EVENT_CLASS) we would have
to add something like this:

#define SKETCH_EVENT_CLASS(name, proto, args, tstruct, print) \
	DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS(name, PARAMS(proto), PARAMS(args),\
		PARAMS(tstruct), PARAMS(print))

We don't have a intermediate or "low level" macro in use here. Whatever
we give to the user is what we use.


I think the kernel developers are smart enough to figure out that these
macros are not a typical DECLARE/DEFINE that is elsewhere. But I think
using the DECLARE/DEFINE names will give them a better idea of what is
happening than to make up something completely new.

-- Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-02 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-01 17:18 [PATCH v2] tracing: add " Jason Baron
2009-12-01 17:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-02 10:42 ` [tip:perf/core] tracing: Add " tip-bot for Jason Baron
2009-12-02 13:52   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 14:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-02 14:28       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 14:43         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-02 14:55           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 16:15             ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-02 16:27             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 17:11               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 18:06                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 18:19                   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2009-12-02 19:01                     ` trace/events: DECLARE vs DEFINE semantic Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 19:19                       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 19:34                         ` Randy Dunlap
2009-12-02 22:36                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-02 22:46                           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 22:57                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-02 23:08                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-02 23:13                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 23:18                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-02 23:15                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03  3:24                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-02 23:10                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03  4:00                               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-03  4:07                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 13:51                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-03 13:54                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 14:09                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03 14:24                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 14:42                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-12-03 15:31                                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-03 15:56                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-12-03 16:11                                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-02 20:11                       ` [PATCH][tip/perf/core] tracing: Rename TRACE_EVENT and others to something resonable Steven Rostedt
2009-12-02 20:16                         ` Frederic Weisbecker

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