From: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
andi.kleen@intel.com, stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Don't apply for write lock on tasklist_lock if parent doesn't ptrace other processes
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:15:53 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1280193353.2085.15.camel@ymzhang.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100726085324.GA32223@redhat.com>
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 10:53 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 07/26, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 19:34 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 07/23, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > After applying my patch (although it's incorrect as there is a race with TRACEME),
> > > > perf shows write_lock_irq in forget_original_parent consumes less than 40% cpu time on
> > > > 8-socket machine.
> > >
> > > Any chance you can test the patch I sent? It should have the same effect,
> > > otherwise there is something interesting.
> > 1) with my patch, we got about 13% improvement;
> > 2) With your patch, we got about 11% improvement;
> >
> > Performance is very sensitive to spinlock contention on large machines.
>
> Zhang, thank you very much.
>
> But. In this case I do not trust these results or I missed something.
> I mean, they do not look 100% accurate.
>
> With your patch:
>
> forget_original_parent:
>
> exit_ptrace:
> if (list_empty(ptraced))
> return;
>
>
> write_lock_irq(tasklist);
>
> ... do a lot more work ...
>
> With my patch:
>
> forget_original_parent:
>
> write_lock_irq(tasklist);
>
> exit_ptrace:
> if (list_empty(ptraced))
> return;
>
> ... do a lot more work ...
>
> The only difference is that we are doing the function call + list_empty()
> under tasklist, just a few instructions compared to "do a lot more work"
> in forget_original_parent().
If considering lock acquire/release on a big machine, plus cache-misses like
what Andi said, the result is reasonable. We did lots of testing on 8-socket
machine. Performance result is very sensitive to lock contentions and cache-misses.
>
> How this can make the 2% difference ?
I reran the testing for a couple of times to make sure the result is stable.
> This looks like a noise to me,
> or do you think I missed something?
No, you didn't miss anything. Any patch shouldn't introduce bugs, so your patch is
right and good.
>
> > > Heh. We must optimize it. But it is not clear when ;)
> > Thanks. It's better to remove the big lock.
>
> Yes. The only problem this is very much nontrival with the current code.
I agree that would be a big project.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-27 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-15 6:51 Zhang, Yanmin
2010-07-15 19:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-07-21 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-21 22:25 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-22 9:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-22 19:24 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-23 17:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-23 8:45 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-07-23 17:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 5:05 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-07-26 8:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 9:40 ` Kleen, Andi
2010-07-27 1:15 ` Zhang, Yanmin [this message]
2010-07-29 15:12 ` [PATCH] ptrace: optimize exit_ptrace() for the likely case Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-29 17:40 ` Roland McGrath
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