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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Thiago Farina <tfransosi@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux/string.h: Introduce streq macro.
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:05:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1303949159.18763.120.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110427214657.GE9487@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 22:46 +0100, Al Viro wrote:

> That's the whole fucking _point_; adding random extensions to the language
> leads to the place where Pascal and LISP are and it's not pretty.  Each
> might make sense taken separately (hell, bzero(3) would prevent real, honest
> to Cthulhu bugs - it's memset(p, 0, n) and we had memset-with-swapped-arguments
> bugs fairly often and yes, in our tree most of memset() callers do pass '\0'
> as the second argument).  Pile enough of those together and you've got yourself
> a dialect only you understand.  _Bad_ idea, since the next thing that happens
> is different dialects in different parts of tree.  And the end of non-incestous
> code review and fixes.  I've seen it first-hand (OK, second - I had enough
> sense to stay out of that particular clusterfuck) on Algol 68 codebase.  I
> *really*, *really* do not want to see anything similar ever again.  Especially
> on projects I can't just piss upon and walk away from.  The fact that in C
> you *can* extend the language that way doesn't make it a good idea.
> 

So in translating the above I have:

"Don't do this because you are opening up a door that will lead to
extension hell"

Am I correct?

If I am, then I will take that as a reason not to add it and leave it at
that.

-- Steve



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-28  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-26 18:49 Thiago Farina
2011-04-26 19:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-26 19:05 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-04-26 19:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-26 19:20     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-04-26 19:21       ` Thiago Farina
2011-04-26 19:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-26 19:45           ` Joe Perches
2011-04-26 19:47             ` Thiago Farina
2011-04-26 19:58               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-26 20:06                 ` Joe Perches
2011-04-27  8:29                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2011-04-27  8:42                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-04-27  8:49                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2011-04-27  9:04                       ` Pavel Vasilyev
2011-04-26 20:00               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-26 19:25       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-26 19:45 ` Thiago Farina
2011-04-26 19:54   ` Thiago Farina
2011-04-27 17:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27 18:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-27 18:51       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-27 19:16         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27 19:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27 19:38           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-27 20:04             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27 20:24               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-27 19:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27 23:38       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-28  3:30       ` Rusty Russell
2011-04-26 20:27 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2011-04-26 20:33   ` Thiago Farina
2011-04-27  0:52 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-27  1:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27  6:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-27  8:47     ` gmack
2011-04-27 14:52       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-27 16:04         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2011-04-27 16:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27  8:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-27 16:46 ` Al Viro
2011-04-27 17:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-27 21:46     ` Al Viro
2011-04-27 22:17       ` Thiago Farina
2011-04-27 22:38         ` Pavel Vasilyev
2011-04-27 22:45         ` Al Viro
2011-04-28  0:05       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2011-04-27 22:21     ` Thiago Farina

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