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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>
Cc: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Enable 'make CONFIG_FOO=y oldconfig'
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:52:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313002322.2989.88.camel@i7.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACqU3MWB+4n5Acd-GboH5WbCzfZFiAc0wNvOkn_5O+--7jLE8A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:40 -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
> so, at best, this buggy behavior is ~ 6 years old. Before that, I'd
> assume that the internal namespace was not accessible by any other
> mean than the front-ends.

I've been editing .config or doing 's/.*CONFIG_FOO[= ].*/CONFIG_FOO=y/'
on it for a decade before that. With all the same limitations as
all.config, and my new CONFIG_FOO=y command line support.

How do *you* quickly, from the command line, enable or disable a single
option in an existing config?

> > Please, if this offends you then by all means go and fix it. A sane way
> > of handling dependencies would give a way to say "do what you need to do
> > in order to enable CONFIG_SATA_MV", and should remove the abomination of
> > 'select', which was introduced purely to work around that lack.
> >
> > But none of that is directly relevant in *this* thread.
> >
> to paraphrase you, I'd say, this might looks "cute but might give
> behavior that people will come to depend on in their scripts and then
> we take it away again", "that's why I'd kind of like to see it done
> *once*, *properly*".

That's a reasonable concern, but I think it's misplaced in this case.
We're not enabling anything that we're later going to break. I can't see
many people *depending* on the fact that 'make CONFIG_SATA_MV=y
oldconfig' actually does *nothing* in some cases.

When we later, hopefully, get proper dependency resolution, that will
take something that *wasn't* working and make it work. For all.config
and for the command line overrides (and in other places) at the same
time.

-- 
dwmw2


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-10 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1312067499.22074.59.camel@i7.infradead.org>
2011-07-30 23:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] kconfig: Factor out conf_validate_choice_val() function from conf_read_simple() David Woodhouse
2011-07-31  2:17   ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-31 22:21     ` David Woodhouse
2011-07-30 23:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] Enable 'make CONFIG_FOO=y oldconfig' David Woodhouse
2011-07-30 23:44   ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-30 23:53     ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-31  0:05       ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-31  0:29         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-31  1:06           ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-31  1:28             ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-07-31  2:09               ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-31  5:21                 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-31 22:18                 ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-09 15:22                   ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-07-31  7:33             ` David Woodhouse
2011-07-31 16:37               ` Randy Dunlap
2011-07-31 16:57                 ` David Woodhouse
2011-07-31 17:08                   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-07-31 17:40                     ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-09 14:14         ` Michal Marek
2011-08-09 15:26           ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-10 12:59             ` Michal Marek
2011-08-10 13:07               ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-10 14:15                 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-10 14:17                   ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-10 14:34                     ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-10 16:33                       ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-10 17:00                         ` Emmanuel Deloget
2011-08-10 17:52                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-10 17:44                         ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-10 17:54                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-10 17:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-10 18:40                             ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-10 18:52                               ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2011-08-10 22:33                                 ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-10 23:16                                   ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-11  3:29                                     ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-11  8:42                                       ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-11  8:58                                         ` Michal Marek
2011-08-11 11:10                                           ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-11 11:15                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-08-11 11:40                                               ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-11 11:56                                                 ` Michal Marek
2011-08-11 13:20                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-11 14:57                                                   ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-11 15:07                                                     ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-11 15:24                                                       ` Michal Marek
2011-08-11 15:50                                                         ` David Woodhouse
2011-08-10 17:01                   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-08-10 17:25                     ` David Woodhouse

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