From: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@itwm.fraunhofer.de>,
Malahal Naineni <malahal@us.ibm.com>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"pstaubach@exagrid.com" <pstaubach@exagrid.com>,
"miklos@szeredi.hu" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk" <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
"michael.brantley@deshaw.com" <michael.brantley@deshaw.com>,
"sven.breuner@itwm.fraunhofer.de"
<sven.breuner@itwm.fraunhofer.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] vfs: make fstatat retry on ESTALE errors from getattr call
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:33:05 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1334604785.2879.23.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120416134642.1754cd3e@corrin.poochiereds.net>
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On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 13:46 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> The question about looping indefinitely really comes down to:
>
> 1) is a persistent ESTALE in conjunction with a successful lookup a
> situation that we expect to be temporary. i.e. will the admin at some
> point be able to do something about it? If not, then there's no point
> in continuing to retry. Again, this is a situation that *really* should
> not happen if the filesystem is doing the right thing.
>
> 2) If the admin can't do anything about it, is it reasonable to expect
> that users can send a fatal signal to hung applications if this
> situation occurs.
>
> We expect that that's ok in other situations to resolve hung
> applications, so I'm not sure I understand why it wouldn't be
> acceptable here...
There are definitely potentially persistent pathological situations that
the filesystem can't do anything about. If the point of origin for your
pathname (for instance your current directory in the case of a relative
pathname) is stale, then no amount of looping is going to help you to
recover.
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer
NetApp
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com
www.netapp.com
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-13 11:25 Jeff Layton
2012-04-13 12:02 ` Jim Rees
2012-04-13 12:09 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20120413150518.GA1987@us.ibm.com>
2012-04-13 15:42 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-13 16:07 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-13 17:10 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-13 17:34 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-13 23:00 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-14 0:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2012-04-15 19:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-15 19:27 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-16 14:23 ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-15 19:57 ` Chuck Lever
2012-04-16 11:23 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 11:53 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-16 11:36 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 12:54 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-16 16:04 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 14:44 ` Bernd Schubert
2012-04-16 17:46 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 19:33 ` Myklebust, Trond [this message]
2012-04-16 19:43 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 20:25 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-16 23:05 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 11:46 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-17 13:36 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 14:14 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-17 14:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 15:02 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 15:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 16:03 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 15:59 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-17 13:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 13:32 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 14:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 14:22 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 14:04 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-17 14:20 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-17 15:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-17 16:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-17 13:39 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-17 14:08 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-17 14:48 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-18 15:16 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-16 19:43 ` Scott Lovenberg
2012-04-16 16:55 ` [PATCH RFC v2] " Jeff Layton
2012-04-18 11:52 ` [PATCH RFC v3] vfs: make fstatat retry once " Jeff Layton
2012-04-20 14:40 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-20 20:18 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-20 20:37 ` Malahal Naineni
2012-04-20 21:13 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-22 5:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-23 12:00 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 13:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-23 13:12 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 13:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-23 13:50 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 13:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-23 14:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-23 15:02 ` Chuck Lever
2012-04-23 15:23 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-23 17:45 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-23 15:16 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 15:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-23 18:59 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-20 21:13 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 14:55 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-23 15:32 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 18:06 ` Steve Dickson
2012-04-23 18:33 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 20:38 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-24 14:50 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-24 15:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-24 16:34 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-25 9:41 ` Miklos Szeredi
2012-04-25 12:04 ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-23 17:43 ` Peter Staubach
2012-04-23 19:06 ` Malahal Naineni
2012-04-22 4:16 ` Ric Wheeler
2012-04-23 11:20 ` Jeff Layton
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