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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Boris Ostrovsky" <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC] xen-block: correctly define structures in public headers
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:28:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1386149319.13256.83.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131203201135.GA14243@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:11 -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > > If Konrad and Boris agree that breaking the kernel's ABI in this way is
> > > acceptable in this specific case, I'll defer to them.
> > 
> > My opinion as Xen on ARM hypervisor maintainer is that this is the right
> > thing to do in this case.
> 
> Heh. If somebody can guarantee me that (by testing the right variants and
> mentioning this in the git commit) that this does not break x86, then
> I am fine.
> 
> And by 'break x86' I mean that this combination works:
>  32-bit domU on 64-bit dom0
>  64-bit domU on 32-bit dom0
> 
> And perhaps also the obvious:
>  64-bit domU on 64-bit dom0
>  32-bit domU on 32-bit dom0

One way to test this is with gdb on a vmlinux for each arch with
CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y. For each MEMBER of each interesting STRUCT:
        (gdb) print &((struct STRUCT *)0)->MEMBER
(this is effectively an open coded offsetof)

This could probably even be semi automated by producing a script to feed
to gdb which run through all of the options and diffing the result.

If I could have the moon on a stick I would have a tool such as this
running against the canonical Xen headers, to catch breakage as it is
introduced upstream and a tool which could run against an arbitrary ELF
binary to validate it against the upstream results.
tools/include/xen-foreign/mkchecker.py goes some way towards that but
isn't really extensible to the extent we would need/want.

While I'm asking for unicorns a gcc __attribute__((warn_on_holes)) which
could be applied to a struct to enforce the need for explicit padding
would probably be incredibly useful for this of thing.

> Since the xen-blkback has its own version of the structs there is no
> need to change change newer and older version of it.

Someone should check that these are producing the right interface on ARM
though!

> As long as that works I am OK sticking it in.

Thanks.

> I think from the ARM perspective it is still in 'experimental' phase
> so anything goes to make it work under ARM.

Ian.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-04  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-03 10:57 Roger Pau Monne
2013-12-03 11:01 ` David Vrabel
2013-12-03 11:07   ` [Xen-devel] " Paul Durrant
2013-12-03 11:08   ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 11:59     ` David Vrabel
2013-12-03 13:41       ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 15:11         ` David Vrabel
2013-12-03 15:17           ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 15:51             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2013-12-03 16:06               ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 20:11             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-12-04  9:28               ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2013-12-04  9:43                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-12-04 12:10                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-04 11:03               ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-04 11:33                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-11 16:18               ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-11 16:23                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-12-11 16:29                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-12-03 11:09   ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-12-03 11:05 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 11:11   ` Jan Beulich
2013-12-03 11:15     ` Ian Campbell
2013-12-03 11:14   ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-12-03 11:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-12-03 11:18   ` Roger Pau Monné

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