From: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: jkaluza@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, rgb@redhat.com, tj@kernel.org,
lizefan@huawei.com, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] Send audit/procinfo/cgroup data in socket-level control message
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:21:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1389828103.681.34.camel@flatline.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140115.121730.1984913330507219167.davem@davemloft.net>
On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 12:17 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jan Kaluza <jkaluza@redhat.com>
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:01:46 +0100
>
> > Changes introduced in this patchset can also increase performance
> > of such server-like processes, because current way of opening and
> > parsing /proc/$PID/* files is much more expensive than receiving these
> > metadata using SCM.
>
> The problem with this line of reasoning is that these changes will
> hurt everyone else, because these new control messages are sent
> unconditionally, whether the application is interested in them or not.
>
> I really don't like this cost tradeoff, it's terrible, and therefore
> I'm really not inclined to apply these patches, sorry.
Agreed. Although you seem to be ignoring the part of the logic where is
solves a problem that can not be solved today.
> The current practice to retrieve such process metadata is to look that
> information up in procfs with the $PID received over SCM_CREDENTIALS.
> This is sufficient for long-running tasks, but introduces a race which
> cannot be worked around for short-living processes; the calling
> process and all the information in /proc/$PID/ is gone before the
> receiver of the socket message can look it up.
Reliably being able to audit what process requested an action is
extremely useful. And I like the audit patch, as it is a couple of ints
we are storing.
procinfo and cgroup can both be up to 4k of data.
Is there an alternative he should consider? Some way to grab a
reference on task_struct and just attach that to the message?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-15 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-27 14:39 [PATCH " Jan Kaluza
2013-08-27 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/3] Send loginuid and sessionid in SCM_AUDIT Jan Kaluza
2013-08-27 14:39 ` [PATCH 2/3] Send comm and cmdline in SCM_PROCINFO Jan Kaluza
2013-09-09 6:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-08-27 14:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] Send cgroup_path in SCM_CGROUP Jan Kaluza
2013-08-28 14:00 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-29 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Send audit/procinfo/cgroup data in socket-level control message Jan Kaluza
2013-08-29 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Send loginuid and sessionid in SCM_AUDIT Jan Kaluza
2013-08-29 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Send comm and cmdline in SCM_PROCINFO Jan Kaluza
2013-08-29 14:13 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Send cgroup_path in SCM_CGROUP Jan Kaluza
2013-09-02 17:17 ` Kay Sievers
2013-09-04 6:14 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Send audit/procinfo/cgroup data in socket-level control message Jan Kaluza
2013-09-04 6:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Send loginuid and sessionid in SCM_AUDIT Jan Kaluza
2013-09-04 7:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-09-04 9:07 ` Jan Kaluža
2013-09-04 6:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Send comm and cmdline in SCM_PROCINFO Jan Kaluza
2013-09-04 6:14 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Send cgroup_path in SCM_CGROUP Jan Kaluza
2013-09-04 7:42 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Send audit/procinfo/cgroup data in socket-level control message Eric W. Biederman
2013-09-04 14:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-09-04 14:58 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-09-04 15:04 ` Jan Kaluža
2013-09-04 15:20 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-09-04 15:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2013-09-04 15:40 ` Jan Kaluža
2014-01-13 8:01 ` [PATCH v4 " Jan Kaluza
2014-01-13 8:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] Send loginuid and sessionid in SCM_AUDIT Jan Kaluza
2014-01-15 4:02 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-13 8:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Send comm and cmdline in SCM_PROCINFO Jan Kaluza
2014-01-15 4:03 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2014-01-13 8:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] Send cgroup_path in SCM_CGROUP Jan Kaluza
2014-01-13 16:52 ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-13 16:55 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Send audit/procinfo/cgroup data in socket-level control message Tejun Heo
2014-01-13 19:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2014-01-14 8:25 ` Jan Kaluža
2014-01-15 20:17 ` David Miller
2014-01-15 23:21 ` Eric Paris [this message]
2014-01-15 23:23 ` Tejun Heo
2014-01-16 9:29 ` Jan Kaluža
2014-01-23 19:31 ` Kay Sievers
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