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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com"
	<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	"Krogerus, Heikki" <heikki.krogerus@intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	yuanyabin1978@sina.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	Peter Pearse <peter.pearse@arm.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Alessandro Rubini <rubini@unipv.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/13] DMAENGINE: driver for the ARM PL080/PL081 PrimeCells
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:52:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1394463171.2270.54.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140310143247.GZ21483@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

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On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 14:32 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> Okay, so how do you get the DMA address which is to be programmed into
> the DMA controller - bearing in mind that different devices in the
> system may have different bus:physical offsets?

There's no answer to that in the general case. The question of how you
program it into the DMA controller, and where you *get* the information
from, is very board-specific. As is the question of whether it's even
*possible* for the DMA controller to "fake" the source of its
transactions. It works for PCIe in certain cases (especially in SoCs)
but certainly doesn't work everywhere.

But that's OK, because in the general case we'd just do the sensible
thing and the DMA would appear to come from the DMA controller itself.
We're only talking about adding the *possibility* for doing otherwise,
not making it mandatory.

> ACPI may allow you to work this out for each slave device, but now
> try thinking about this same problem without ACPI.

Actually, if it's really true that the *kernel* is supposed to tell the
DMA controller which source-id to use for a given channel, instead of it
being programmed in advance by the BIOS, then ACPI doesn't solve that
for us in this case either. The whole thing seems to be designed such
that the DMA just *does* appear to come from the slave, not the DMA
controller. And we haven't yet worked out how we're supposed to make
that happen. If indeed we *are* supposed to :)

-- 
dwmw2


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-10 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-11 15:27 Linus Walleij
2010-06-14  6:02 ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-06-14 13:39   ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-15  5:25     ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-06-15 20:14       ` Linus WALLEIJ
2010-06-16  3:59         ` Viresh KUMAR
2010-06-16  6:38           ` Linus Walleij
2010-06-15 10:25 ` Kukjin Kim
2010-06-15 10:45   ` Jassi Brar
2010-06-15 11:17     ` Maurus Cuelenaere
2010-06-15 11:39       ` Jassi Brar
2010-06-15 12:04         ` Maurus Cuelenaere
2010-06-15 20:55     ` Linus WALLEIJ
2010-12-21 18:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-21 22:25   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-22 12:22   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-22 12:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-22 23:45     ` Dan Williams
2010-12-22 23:54       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  0:53         ` Dan Williams
2010-12-23  0:10       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  1:11         ` Dan Williams
2010-12-23  1:31           ` Dan Williams
2010-12-31 21:50             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-02  9:42               ` Dan Williams
2011-01-02 11:22                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-02 20:33               ` Linus Walleij
2011-01-03 11:14                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  9:18           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-23  8:17       ` Linus Walleij
2010-12-23  8:30         ` Jassi Brar
2010-12-23 12:30         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-28  0:33           ` Linus Walleij
2011-01-01 15:15       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-02 20:29         ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-10 13:56         ` David Woodhouse
2014-03-10 14:11           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-10 14:27             ` David Woodhouse
2014-03-10 14:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-10 14:32           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-10 14:52             ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2014-03-13  8:17               ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-13  8:52                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-13 14:35                   ` Linus Walleij
2011-01-01 15:36       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 15:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-04  0:41         ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-04 10:47         ` Linus Walleij

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