From: Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
lpoetter@redhat.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kay@redhat.com,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:47:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397756821.2628.69.camel@willson.li.ssimo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVBJFgKwRKBE2jAG6kiGgkJ+MyQiw2nyz5yj0h68kCk9A@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 10:35 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 10:26 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>
> >> Not really. write(2) can't send SCM_CGROUP. Callers of sendmsg(2)
> >> who supply SCM_CGROUP are explicitly indicating that they want their
> >> cgroup associated with that message. Callers of write(2) and send(2)
> >> are simply indicating that they have some bytes that they want to
> >> shove into whatever's at the other end of the fd.
> >
> > But there is no attack vector that passes by tricking setuid binaries to
> > write to pre-opened file descriptors on sendmsg(), and for the other
> > cases (connected socket) journald can always cross check with
> > SO_PEERCGROUP, so why do we care again ?
>
> Because the proposed code does not do what I described, at least as
> far I as I can tell.
You do realize that we have been speaking in hypothetical for a while
now ?
Even without doing the SO_PEERCRED, you are not going to fool the log,
as it gathers a ton of other info about the process, and cgroup is just
one of the infos used to classify the log.
There are also credentials, pid, and a lot of other things.
Even if a setuid binary could be tricked to send a message with an
"impostor" cgroup don't you think you'd see other things out of place ?
(wrong uid, wrong pid, etc...).
What I am telling you is that userspace has all the tools it needs to
not get fooled, as long as cgroup information retrieved via
SO_PASSCGROUP is not uniquely used to authenticate a peer process for
connected sockets.
Simo.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-17 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-15 21:15 [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 0:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15 23:09 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 0:20 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 1:05 ` David Miller
2014-04-16 3:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 10:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 14:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 15:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 12:57 ` David Miller
2014-04-16 14:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 16:13 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:21 ` Tejun Heo
2014-04-16 16:54 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:02 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:34 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 19:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 19:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 19:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 20:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 13:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 15:41 ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-17 16:04 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:24 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:48 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 17:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:33 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 17:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:47 ` Simo Sorce [this message]
2014-04-17 18:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:23 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 18:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:15 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:10 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-21 15:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 15:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 16:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:52 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:31 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 16:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:12 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:29 ` David Miller
2014-04-24 20:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 20:48 ` David Miller
2014-04-24 21:04 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 21:11 ` David Miller
2014-04-25 0:29 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-22 20:05 ` [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options David Miller
2014-04-22 20:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:29 ` David Miller
2014-04-22 20:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:32 ` David Miller
2014-04-23 0:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 19:05 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 20:53 ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-24 13:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
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