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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Preeti Murthy <preeti.lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	george.mccollister@gmail.com, ktkhai@parallels.com,
	Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 14:04:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1399205073.5180.42.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM4v1pPwe4B0K8MPpf183LqabRoRKRPi_R7n8-Y02aR43M8iQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 17:14 +0530, Preeti Murthy wrote: 
> Hi Rik, Mike
> 
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 05/02/2014 02:13 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 00:42 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> >>
> >>> Whether or not this is the right thing to do remains to be seen,
> >>> but it does allow us to verify whether or not the wake_affine
> >>> strategy of always doing affine wakeups and only disabling them
> >>> in a specific circumstance is sound, or needs rethinking...
> >>
> >> Yes, it needs rethinking.
> >>
> >> I know why you want to try this, yes, select_idle_sibling() is very much
> >> a two faced little bitch.
> >
> > My biggest problem with select_idle_sibling and wake_affine in
> > general is that it will override NUMA placement, even when
> > processes only wake each other up infrequently...
> 
> As far as my understanding goes, the logic in select_task_rq_fair()
> does wake_affine() or calls select_idle_sibling() only at those
> levels of sched domains where the flag SD_WAKE_AFFINE is set.
> This flag is not set at the numa domain and hence they will not be
> balancing across numa nodes. So I don't understand how
> *these functions* are affecting NUMA placements.

Depends on how far away node yonder is I suppose.

static inline int sd_local_flags(int level)
{
        if (sched_domains_numa_distance[level] > RECLAIM_DISTANCE)
                return 0;

        return SD_BALANCE_EXEC | SD_BALANCE_FORK | SD_WAKE_AFFINE;
}



  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-04 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02  4:42 Rik van Riel
2014-05-02  5:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  5:41   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  5:58   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:08     ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02  6:36       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:51         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:30   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02  7:37     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 10:56       ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 11:27         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 12:51           ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]           ` <5363B793.9010208@redhat.com>
2014-05-06 11:54             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:19               ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 23:46                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  2:20                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  5:27                     ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  6:04                       ` [PATCH] sched: clean up select_task_rq_fair conditionals and indentation Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  7:34                       ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 14:22                         ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 15:24                           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 15:24                             ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 17:55                               ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 18:16                                 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-10  3:54                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-13 14:08                                     ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-14  4:08                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-14 15:40                                         ` [PATCH] sched: call select_idle_sibling when not affine_sd Rik van Riel
2014-05-14 15:45                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 13:08                                           ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-22 12:27                                           ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Call select_idle_sibling() " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-04 11:44     ` [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Preeti Murthy
2014-05-04 12:04       ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2014-05-05  4:38         ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-04 12:41       ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-05  4:50         ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05  6:43           ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05 11:28           ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 13:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 13:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:20           ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 12:17               ` Ingo Molnar
2014-05-06 11:56       ` Peter Zijlstra

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