From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
mingo@kernel.org, george.mccollister@gmail.com,
ktkhai@parallels.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Vinod, Chegu" <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 06:08:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1400040489.5157.44.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53722754.6040102@redhat.com>
On Tue, 2014-05-13 at 10:08 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> OK, after doing some other NUMA stuff, and then looking at the scheduler
> again with a fresh mind, I have drawn some more conclusions about what
> the scheduler does, and how it breaks NUMA locality :)
>
> 1) If the node_distance between nodes on a NUMA system is
> <= RECLAIM_DISTANCE, we will call select_idle_sibling for
> a wakeup of a previously existing task (SD_BALANCE_WAKE)
>
> 2) If the node distance exceeds RECLAIM_DISTANCE, we will
> wake up a task on prev_cpu, even if it is not currently
> idle
>
> This behaviour only happens on certain large NUMA systems,
> and is different from the behaviour on small systems.
> I suspect we will want to call select_idle_sibling with
> prev_cpu in case target and prev_cpu are not in the same
> SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain.
Sometimes. It's the same can of worms remote as it is local.. latency
gain may or may not outweigh cache miss pain.
> 3) If wake_wide is false, we call select_idle_sibling with
> the CPU number of the code that is waking up the task
>
> 4) If wake_wide is true, we call select_idle_sibling with
> the CPU number the task was previously running on (prev_cpu)
>
> In effect, the "wake task on waking task's CPU" behaviour
> is the default, regardless of how frequently a task wakes up
> its wakee, and regardless of impact on NUMA locality.
>
> This may need to be changed.
That behavior also improves the odds of communicating tasks sharing a
cache though.
> Am I overlooking anything?
No, I think you're seeing where the worms live.
> What benchmarks should I run to test any changes I make?
Mixed bag, it'll affects all, bursty, static, ramp up/down.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-14 4:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-02 4:42 [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 5:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 5:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 5:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:08 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 6:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 6:30 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 7:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 10:56 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02 11:27 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 12:51 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <5363B793.9010208@redhat.com>
2014-05-06 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:19 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 23:46 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 2:20 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 5:27 ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 6:04 ` [PATCH] sched: clean up select_task_rq_fair conditionals and indentation Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 7:34 ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 14:22 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 15:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 15:24 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 17:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 18:16 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-10 3:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-13 14:08 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-14 4:08 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2014-05-14 15:40 ` [PATCH] sched: call select_idle_sibling when not affine_sd Rik van Riel
2014-05-14 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 13:08 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-22 12:27 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Call select_idle_sibling() " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-04 11:44 ` [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Preeti Murthy
2014-05-04 12:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-05 4:38 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-04 12:41 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-05 4:50 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05 6:43 ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05 11:28 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 13:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:20 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 12:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-05-06 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
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