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From: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/8] kmod - teach call_usermodehelper() to use a namespace
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:42:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1424223745.2600.5.camel@pluto.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150216171323.GA23710@redhat.com>

On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 18:13 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/16, Ian Kent wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 17:55 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > On 02/10, Ian Kent wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 17:03 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand. but I still can't understand why we can't implement something
> > > > > like
> > > > > 	enter_ns(struct nsproxy *p)
> > > > > 	{
> > > > > 		new_nsproxy = create_new_namespaces(...);
> > > > >
> > > > > 		p->mnt_ns->ns->ops->install(new_nsproxy, ...);
> > > > > 		p->pid_ns_for_children->ns->ops->install(new_nsproxy, ...);
> > > > > 		...
> > > > >
> > > > > 		switch_task_namespaces(new_nsproxy);
> > > > > 	}
> > > > >
> > > > > Why we should abuse fs/proc ?
> > > >
> > > > That sounds like a much better approach.
> > > > Your saying just take a reference to the nsproxy from the located
> > > > process and use it instead, right?
> > >
> > > Yes,
> >
> > I'm still not sure if this can be done (at least without surgery to the
> > namespace implementation) and I think I've been here before which is
> > what lead to the file_open_root() approach.
> >
> > The difficulty is the second parameter to the install() call above, the
> > struct ns_common. In setns() it's obtained from the procfs file inode
> > and the file open is what's used to obtain each namespace type (in the
> > form of a struct ns_common) from a process context different from
> > current, current being the thread runner process.
> >
> > I might still be able to work out a (viable) way to obtain the
> > appropriate ns_common struct in each case without a file open but it's
> > hard to see how.
> 
> Not sure I understand... Every "namespace" pointer "struct nsproxy" has
> the "struct ns_common ns" you need? So you can do (for example)
> 
> 	p->mnt_ns->ns->ops->install(new_nsproxy, &p->mnt_ns->ns);
> 
> or I missed something? (userns differs, you need cred->user_ns, of course).

I didn't see that when I looked so I missed it, thanks for pointing it
out.

> 
> 
> Perhaps I missed something, but this doesn't look like a problem...
> 
> The real problem is that , let me repeat, is that pidns_install() does not
> and can't change active_pid_ns. So I think that kernel_thread_in_ns() probably
> make more sense.

Right, I didn't miss that when you mentioned it.

Changing the execution order using your kernel_thread_in_ns() suggestion
is clearly what needs to be done.

Ian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-18  1:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-05  2:33 [RFC PATCH 0/8] v3 contained usermode helper execution Ian Kent
2015-02-05  2:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] nsproxy - refactor setns() Ian Kent
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] kmod - rename call_usermodehelper() flags parameter Ian Kent
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] kmod - teach call_usermodehelper() to use a namespace Ian Kent
2015-02-06 12:08   ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-08  3:07     ` Ian Kent
2015-02-08 15:22       ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-08 18:12       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-08 19:00   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-09  1:43     ` Ian Kent
2015-02-09 16:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-10  0:08         ` Ian Kent
2015-02-10 16:55           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-11  0:40             ` Ian Kent
2015-02-16  6:16             ` Ian Kent
2015-02-16 17:13               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-16 18:24                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18  2:09                   ` Ian Kent
2015-02-18  1:42                 ` Ian Kent [this message]
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] KEYS - rename call_usermodehelper_keys() flags parameter Ian Kent
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] KEYS: exec request-key within the requesting task's init namespace Ian Kent
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] nfsd - use namespace if not executing in " Ian Kent
2015-02-18 17:37   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] nfs - cache_lib " Ian Kent
2015-02-05  2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] nfs - objlayout " Ian Kent
2015-02-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] kmod - rename call_usermodehelper() flags parameter David Howells
2015-02-06  0:01   ` Ian Kent
2015-02-05 15:14 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] KEYS: exec request-key within the requesting task's init namespace David Howells
2015-02-06  1:47   ` Ian Kent
2015-02-18 17:06     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-18 17:31       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-18 20:59         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-19  0:39           ` Ian Kent
2015-02-19  1:31             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-19  3:18               ` Ian Kent
2015-02-20  9:33               ` Ian Kent
2015-02-20 17:25                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-20 18:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-20 18:58                     ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-20 19:05                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-21  3:58                       ` Ian Kent
2015-02-23 14:52                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-24  0:50                           ` Ian Kent
2015-02-24  1:22                             ` Benjamin Coddington
2015-02-24  8:01                               ` Ian Kent
2015-02-24 15:33                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-25  0:41                                 ` Benjamin Coddington
2015-02-05 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] kmod - teach call_usermodehelper() to use a namespace David Howells

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