From: Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <onestero@redhat.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/8] KEYS: exec request-key within the requesting task's init namespace
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:41:04 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.19.9992.1502241604080.486@planck.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224153329.GA2415@fieldses.org>
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 05:22:12PM -0800, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
> > That sounds a lot closer to some of the work I've been doing to see if I can
> > come up with a way to solve the "where's the namespace I need?" problem.
> >
> > I agree with Greg's very early comments that the easiest way to determine
> > which namespace context a process should use is to keep it as a copy of
> > the task -- and the place that copy should be done is fork().
>
> So you're suggesting that the key_agent could be that copy? But:
>
> > ... If not, then the calling process itself is forked/execve-ed into a
> > new persistent key_agent that is installed on the calling process'
> > keyrings just like a key, and with the same lifetime and GC
> > expectations of a key.
> >
> > A key_agent is a user-space process...
>
> If the key_agent can die before it's needed, then we have to keep around
> some other context information to allow regenerating a new one. So what
> is that piece of information? Aren't we back where we started?
Yes. It would seem to make sense then to keep a copy of task which would be
used to create the user-space key_agent. If that's the standard behavior,
it doubles the number of tasks for the average use case. The average use
case (I anticipate) would be to just always fork the caller if a key_agent
is not found.
It would probably make sense provide the key_agent_type the option of
binding a key_agent reference task to another structure -- like a mount.
And, if so, that reservied reference task would be used to create/re-create the
user-space key_agent. The trouble there is how to have the caller
communicate the object bound to the task.. a reference to the object could
be guessed, which would give any caller access to a that reserved task..
In order to keep further verbose speculation to a minimum, I'll say: good
point.. there may be a way to authorize the usage of a reference task by
means of the possession of an authkey. I'll keep hacking at this.
Ben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-25 0:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-05 2:33 [RFC PATCH 0/8] v3 contained usermode helper execution Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] nsproxy - refactor setns() Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] kmod - rename call_usermodehelper() flags parameter Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] kmod - teach call_usermodehelper() to use a namespace Ian Kent
2015-02-06 12:08 ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-08 3:07 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-08 15:22 ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-08 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-08 19:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-09 1:43 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-09 16:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-10 0:08 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-10 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-11 0:40 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-16 6:16 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-16 17:13 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-16 18:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-02-18 2:09 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-18 1:42 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] KEYS - rename call_usermodehelper_keys() flags parameter Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] KEYS: exec request-key within the requesting task's init namespace Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] nfsd - use namespace if not executing in " Ian Kent
2015-02-18 17:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] nfs - cache_lib " Ian Kent
2015-02-05 2:34 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] nfs - objlayout " Ian Kent
2015-02-05 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] kmod - rename call_usermodehelper() flags parameter David Howells
2015-02-06 0:01 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-05 15:14 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] KEYS: exec request-key within the requesting task's init namespace David Howells
2015-02-06 1:47 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-18 17:06 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-18 17:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-18 20:59 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-19 0:39 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-19 1:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-19 3:18 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-20 9:33 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-20 17:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-20 18:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-20 18:58 ` Jeff Layton
2015-02-20 19:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-21 3:58 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-23 14:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-24 0:50 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-24 1:22 ` Benjamin Coddington
2015-02-24 8:01 ` Ian Kent
2015-02-24 15:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-25 0:41 ` Benjamin Coddington [this message]
2015-02-05 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] kmod - teach call_usermodehelper() to use a namespace David Howells
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