From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: mancha <mancha1@zoho.com>, tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
dborkman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 11:50:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1426675809.2143223.241946097.20888470@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150318095345.GA12923@zoho.com>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015, at 10:53, mancha wrote:
> Hi.
>
> The kernel RNG introduced memzero_explicit in d4c5efdb9777 to protect
> memory cleansing against things like dead store optimization:
>
> void memzero_explicit(void *s, size_t count)
> {
> memset(s, 0, count);
> OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR(s);
> }
>
> OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR, introduced in fe8c8a126806 to protect crypto_memneq
> against timing analysis, is defined when using gcc as:
>
> #define OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR(var) __asm__ ("" : "=r" (var) : "0" (var))
>
> My tests with gcc 4.8.2 on x86 find it insufficient to prevent gcc from
> optimizing out memset (i.e. secrets remain in memory).
>
> Two things that do work:
>
> __asm__ __volatile__ ("" : "=r" (var) : "0" (var))
You are correct, volatile signature should be added to
OPTIMIZER_HIDE_VAR. Because we use an output variable "=r", gcc is
allowed to check if it is needed and may remove the asm statement.
Another option would be to just use var as an input variable - asm
blocks without output variables are always considered being volatile by
gcc.
Can you send a patch?
I don't think it is security critical, as Daniel pointed out, the call
will happen because the function is an external call to the crypto
functions, thus the compiler has to flush memory on return.
Bye,
Hannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-18 10:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-18 9:53 mancha
2015-03-18 10:30 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 10:50 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2015-03-18 10:56 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 11:09 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:02 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:14 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:19 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:20 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:42 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 15:09 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 16:02 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 17:14 ` mancha
2015-03-18 17:49 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 19:09 ` mancha
2015-03-18 23:53 ` Cesar Eduardo Barros
2015-03-18 17:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 17:56 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 17:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 12:58 ` mancha
2015-04-10 13:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:00 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:09 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:22 ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:33 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 20:09 ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:26 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:45 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:46 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-10 14:50 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:54 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 19:10 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:34 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 20:41 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:53 ` Daniel Borkmann
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