From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: mancha <mancha1@zoho.com>,
tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
dborkman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:09:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1426691374.2212055.242060697.4DDF89CA@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550972A7.9030100@iogearbox.net>
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015, at 13:42, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 03/18/2015 01:20 PM, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2015, 13:19:07 schrieb Hannes Frederic Sowa:
> >>>> My proposal would be to add a
> >>>>
> >>>> #define OPTIMIZER_HIDE_MEM(ptr, len) __asm__ __volatile__ ("" : :
> >>>> "m"(
> >>>> ({ struct { u8 b[len]; } *p = (void *)ptr ; *p; }) )
> >>>>
> >>>> and use this in the code function.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is documented in gcc manual 6.43.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> That one adds the zeroization instructuctions. But now there are much
> >>> more than with the barrier.
> >>>
> >>> 400469: 48 c7 04 24 00 00 00 movq $0x0,(%rsp)
> >>> 400470: 00
> >>> 400471: 48 c7 44 24 08 00 00 movq $0x0,0x8(%rsp)
> >>> 400478: 00 00
> >>> 40047a: c7 44 24 10 00 00 00 movl $0x0,0x10(%rsp)
> >>> 400481: 00
> >>> 400482: 48 c7 44 24 20 00 00 movq $0x0,0x20(%rsp)
> >>> 400489: 00 00
> >>> 40048b: 48 c7 44 24 28 00 00 movq $0x0,0x28(%rsp)
> >>> 400492: 00 00
> >>> 400494: c7 44 24 30 00 00 00 movl $0x0,0x30(%rsp)
> >>> 40049b: 00
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Hmm, correct definition of u8?
> >
> > I use unsigned char
> >>
> >> Which version of gcc do you use? I can't see any difference if I
> >> compile your example at -O2.
> >
> > gcc-Version 4.9.2 20150212 (Red Hat 4.9.2-6) (GCC)
Well, was an error on my side, I see the same behavior.
>
> I can see the same with the gcc version I previously posted. So
> it clears the 20 bytes from your example (movq, movq, movl) at
> two locations, presumably buf[] and b[].
Yes, it looks like that. The reservation on the stack changes, too.
Seems like just using barrier() is the best and easiest option.
Thanks,
Hannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-18 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-18 9:53 mancha
2015-03-18 10:30 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 10:50 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 10:56 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 11:09 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:02 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:14 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:19 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:20 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:42 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 15:09 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2015-03-18 16:02 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 17:14 ` mancha
2015-03-18 17:49 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 19:09 ` mancha
2015-03-18 23:53 ` Cesar Eduardo Barros
2015-03-18 17:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 17:56 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 17:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 12:58 ` mancha
2015-04-10 13:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:00 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:09 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:22 ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:33 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 20:09 ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:26 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:45 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:46 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-10 14:50 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:54 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 19:10 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:34 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 20:41 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:53 ` Daniel Borkmann
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