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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: mancha <mancha1@zoho.com>,
	tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au,
	dborkman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:09:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1426691374.2212055.242060697.4DDF89CA@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550972A7.9030100@iogearbox.net>



On Wed, Mar 18, 2015, at 13:42, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 03/18/2015 01:20 PM, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 18. März 2015, 13:19:07 schrieb Hannes Frederic Sowa:
> >>>> My proposal would be to add a
> >>>>
> >>>> #define OPTIMIZER_HIDE_MEM(ptr, len) __asm__ __volatile__ ("" : :
> >>>> "m"(
> >>>> ({ struct { u8 b[len]; } *p = (void *)ptr ; *p; }) )
> >>>>
> >>>> and use this in the code function.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is documented in gcc manual 6.43.2.5.
> >>>
> >>> That one adds the zeroization instructuctions. But now there are much
> >>> more than with the barrier.
> >>>
> >>>    400469:       48 c7 04 24 00 00 00    movq   $0x0,(%rsp)
> >>>    400470:       00
> >>>    400471:       48 c7 44 24 08 00 00    movq   $0x0,0x8(%rsp)
> >>>    400478:       00 00
> >>>    40047a:       c7 44 24 10 00 00 00    movl   $0x0,0x10(%rsp)
> >>>    400481:       00
> >>>    400482:       48 c7 44 24 20 00 00    movq   $0x0,0x20(%rsp)
> >>>    400489:       00 00
> >>>    40048b:       48 c7 44 24 28 00 00    movq   $0x0,0x28(%rsp)
> >>>    400492:       00 00
> >>>    400494:       c7 44 24 30 00 00 00    movl   $0x0,0x30(%rsp)
> >>>    40049b:       00
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Hmm, correct definition of u8?
> >
> > I use unsigned char
> >>
> >> Which version of gcc do you use? I can't see any difference if I
> >> compile your example at -O2.
> >
> > gcc-Version 4.9.2 20150212 (Red Hat 4.9.2-6) (GCC)

Well, was an error on my side, I see the same behavior.

> 
> I can see the same with the gcc version I previously posted. So
> it clears the 20 bytes from your example (movq, movq, movl) at
> two locations, presumably buf[] and b[].

Yes, it looks like that. The reservation on the stack changes, too.

Seems like just using barrier() is the best and easiest option.

Thanks,
Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-18 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18  9:53 mancha
2015-03-18 10:30 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 10:50 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 10:56   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 11:09     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:02       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:14         ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:19           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 12:20             ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 12:42               ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 15:09                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2015-03-18 16:02                   ` Stephan Mueller
2015-03-18 17:14                     ` mancha
2015-03-18 17:49                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-03-18 19:09                         ` mancha
2015-03-18 23:53                       ` Cesar Eduardo Barros
2015-03-18 17:41                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 17:56                     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-18 17:58                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-03-18 12:58         ` mancha
2015-04-10 13:25       ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:00         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:09           ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:22             ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:33               ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 20:09                 ` mancha security
2015-04-10 14:26             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:36               ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:45                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-10 14:46                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-10 14:50                   ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-10 14:54                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 19:10                     ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:34                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-27 20:41                         ` Stephan Mueller
2015-04-27 20:53                           ` Daniel Borkmann

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