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From: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
To: Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] net: sysctl for RA default route MTU
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:58:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1428422310.2928.8.camel@stressinduktion.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36791427998117@webcorp02f.yandex-team.ru>

On Do, 2015-04-02 at 21:08 +0300, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> >>  The next question I have is about the behavior of the new setting
> >>  in the presence of an RA MTU option.  It seems like the sysctl
> >>  doesn't override that RA MTU option, but rather just clamps it.
> >>
> >>  And then if it's in range, this controls only whether the default
> >>  route has it's MTU adjusted.
> >>
> >>  That doesn't make any sense to me if we then go and do the
> >>  rt6_mtu_change() call unconditionally.  The route metric update
> >>  and the rt6_mtu_change() go hand in hand.
> >
> > Agreed but that gets interesting:
> >
> > I guess during testing the cnf.mtu6 value was equal to the newly
> > announced mtu value, so the rt6_mtu_change call does not happen. We
> > update cnf.mtu6 so a second RA packet would actually bring the system
> > into the desired state but we have a moment where the default route
> > carries a too big MTU. That's not good.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > Easiest solution is to reorder those calls but that also leaves us with
> > a time frame where we carry the incorrect MTU on the default route.
> > Otherwise we must conditionally filter out the default routes.
> > Roman, any ideas?
> 
> I think, such approach will work on practise, but looks not very beatiful.
> 
> May be, a better idea is to serarate per-route and per-device MTU,
> so an updating of per-device MTU will not affect per-route MTU.
> Actual MTU can always been calculated as min(route_mtu, device_mtu),
> but we wouldn't need to update mtu on each route on receiving RA MTU option, 
> for instance.
> 
> Do you see any problems with such approach?

If I understood you correct this actually seems to be quite an intrusive
change? :/ Can you show me some code how to do this?

I would also dislike adding a filtering capability to the route mtu
updates. Currently I don't have a god idea, sorry.

Bye,
Hannes



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-07 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-24 18:03 [PATCH] " Roman Gushchin
2015-03-24 19:27 ` David Miller
2015-03-25  9:49   ` Roman Gushchin
2015-03-25 11:07   ` [PATCH v2] " Roman Gushchin
2015-03-25 12:34     ` Denis Kirjanov
2015-03-25 15:52     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]       ` <39171427301187@webcorp02f.yandex-team.ru>
2015-03-25 18:14         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-26 11:49           ` [PATCH v3] " Roman Gushchin
2015-03-26 14:49             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-29 19:42             ` David Miller
2015-03-30 12:30               ` Roman Gushchin
2015-03-31 20:05                 ` David Miller
2015-03-31 20:35                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-03-31 20:49                     ` David Miller
2015-04-01  9:58                       ` Roman Gushchin
2015-04-01 17:55                         ` David Miller
2015-04-01 19:27                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-04-02 18:08                             ` Roman Gushchin
2015-04-07 15:58                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa [this message]
2015-04-08 19:03                                 ` Roman Gushchin

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