From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@memnix.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
keyrings@linux-nfs.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Should we automatically generate a module signing key at all?
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 13:46:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1432039613.29806.75.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29742.1432025631@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
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On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 09:53 +0100, David Howells wrote:
>
> Just in Fedora 21:
>
> warthog>rpm -ql kernel-modules | grep [.]ko | wc -l
> 3604
> warthog>rpm -ql kernel-modules-extra | grep [.]ko | wc -l
> 480
>
> So that's >4000 modules, each signed with a SHA256 sum (32 bytes). That's
> more than 125K of unswappable memory. And it's uncompressible as Dave pointed
> out. And that doesn't include any metadata to match a module to a digest, but
> rather assumes we just scan through the entire list comparing against each
> SHA256 sum until we find one that matches.
If you *really* wanted to do it, there might be ways round this
explosion of data.
Perhaps the kernel only contains *one* sha256 ― the sha256 of all the
sha256's of all the modules.
Then when one module is loaded, we also have to pass in a table
containing all the other sha256's. The kernel checks the sha256 of what's being loaded, checks it matches what's in the table that was
also
loaded. And then validates the integrity of that table.
I don't much like that idea, mind you.
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-19 12:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-18 16:04 David Howells
2015-05-18 16:19 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-18 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-18 16:55 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-18 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 0:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 7:42 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 18:08 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:38 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 20:00 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 20:25 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:44 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 16:10 ` David Howells
2015-05-21 16:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 20:37 ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-20 5:01 ` Rusty Russell
2015-05-19 8:53 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 12:46 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2015-05-19 12:52 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 14:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 15:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 15:53 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 17:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 15:30 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 15:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-05-19 16:09 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 17:32 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 17:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 16:23 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 17:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-05-19 18:10 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 21:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-05-20 7:45 ` Michal Marek
2015-05-20 7:47 ` Michal Marek
2015-05-19 17:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:38 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:50 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:57 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 15:59 ` David Howells
2015-05-21 23:54 George Spelvin
2015-05-22 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 0:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 14:13 ` George Spelvin
2015-05-22 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 20:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 22:18 ` David Howells
2015-05-22 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 22:15 ` David Howells
2015-05-22 22:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 22:21 ` David Howells
2015-05-22 0:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 12:42 ` George Spelvin
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